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Posted by: alan Jan 7 2006, 05:34 AM

What the heck is that?

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-details.cfm?feiImageID=60004

Posted by: ermar Jan 7 2006, 08:00 AM

Whatever it is, it's a jiggled-up, overexposed version of http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGBrowseS17/W00012846.jpg. Not quite as weird, but the instrument pointing logs would be of great utility here.

Posted by: edstrick Jan 7 2006, 10:22 AM

(attaches twilight zone theme tweedle to the picture)

Posted by: djellison Jan 7 2006, 11:05 AM

There's lots of them, and some have different speckles with different filters

Is it an internal calibration? Or Calibration using the Sun or something like that?

Doug

Posted by: ugordan Jan 7 2006, 11:57 AM

If I'm not mistaken, that may be an image of the calibration lamp. WAC has a calibration lamp (IIRC, WAC design was inherited from the Voyagers) while NAC has no such thing.
That bright middle band does somewhat resemble a tungsten wire in a lamp, defocussed of course.

Posted by: abalone Jan 7 2006, 12:01 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 7 2006, 10:57 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, that may be an image of the calibration lamp. WAC has a calibration lamp (IIRC, WAC design was inherited from the Voyagers) while NAC has no such thing.
That bright middle band does somewhat resemble a tungsten wire in a lamp, defocussed of course.
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You guys are a bottomless pit of knowledge, I'm impressed blink.gif ohmy.gif blink.gif

Posted by: ugordan Jan 7 2006, 12:20 PM

Here's an exploded view of the wide angle camera, taken from 2004_PorcoWest.pdf:


Note the calibration lamp on the left, in the front of the optics.

Posted by: Cugel Jan 7 2006, 01:11 PM

A slightly enhanced version of this picture:


Posted by: dilo Jan 7 2006, 01:27 PM

Excellent explaination, ugordan... but I prefere Cugel version! rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif
(remember that in the original 2001 book, monolith was near Saturn!).

Posted by: ugordan Jan 7 2006, 01:47 PM

QUOTE (dilo @ Jan 7 2006, 02:27 PM)
Excellent explaination, ugordan... but I prefere Cugel version!  rolleyes.gif  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
(remember that in the original 2001 book, monolith was near Saturn!).
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Hehe, THAT is a good one! biggrin.gif

Posted by: jmknapp Jan 7 2006, 02:49 PM

This is the science plan entry:

2006JAN05 21:57 UTC - 2006JAN06 01:57 UTC
ISS_020IC_CALLAMP001_PRIME

ISS WAC CAL LAMP
ISS WAC Cal Lamp exposures

Posted by: dilo Jan 7 2006, 03:02 PM

QUOTE (jmknapp @ Jan 7 2006, 02:49 PM)
This is the science plan entry:

2006JAN05 21:57 UTC - 2006JAN06 01:57 UTC
ISS_020IC_CALLAMP001_PRIME

ISS WAC CAL LAMP
ISS WAC Cal Lamp exposures
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So, no space for Science Fiction here... but, hey, wait a moment! Deaths Star is pointing toward Titan!!! Hope rebellion will destroy it soon!
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS17/N00047873.jpg
wink.gif

Posted by: ljk4-1 Jan 7 2006, 03:16 PM

QUOTE (dilo @ Jan 7 2006, 08:27 AM)
Excellent explaination, ugordan... but I prefere Cugel version!  rolleyes.gif  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
(remember that in the original 2001 book, monolith was near Saturn!).
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The Monolith in the novel wasn't just near Saturn, it was on Iapetus in a large white "crater" and the Monolith ETI had something to do with making the moon so bright on one side and so dark on the other - a kind of semaphore signal to humanity.

See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapetus_(moon)#Iapetus_in_fiction

In fact none other than Donald Goldsmith and Tobias Owen speculated in 1980 that Iapetus' condition might be artificial:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapetus_(moon)#Speculation_that_Iapetus_is_artificial

Even Iapetus' discoverer, the real Cassini, noted its dark and light halves in 1671:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapetus_(moon)#Two-tone_coloration

Posted by: Decepticon Jan 7 2006, 04:05 PM

I never get tired of 2001 comedy. biggrin.gif

Posted by: ElkGroveDan Jan 7 2006, 04:39 PM

QUOTE (Cugel @ Jan 7 2006, 01:11 PM)
A slightly enhanced version of this picture:
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Nah, THIS is the enhanced version:


Posted by: deglr6328 Jan 7 2006, 06:05 PM

Back to the calib. image, I do not like the looks of it. Recall the Stardust lamp calib images of 2001....

here, the prelaunch image clearly showing helical structure of the W filament.


and then a post-launch image after contamination on the lens accumulated


and finaly after baking of the lens is nearly done, the wigglyness is again visible



I don't have a prelaunch image to compare it to but the Cassini image looks TOO blurry. Even if the filament is a straight wire this is too blurry I think.



If you're REALLY good you can estimate the particle size distribution of the contamination droplets on the surface... http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/phyopt/corfog.html (note, no I am not that good biggrin.gif )

Posted by: ugordan Jan 7 2006, 06:31 PM

QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jan 7 2006, 05:39 PM)
Nah, THIS is the enhanced version:


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Star Trek : TNG ?

Posted by: Decepticon Jan 7 2006, 06:56 PM

^Yeah sad Creature/Ship sad.gif



When I first saw it I though of a Vegetable (forgot the name of it)

Posted by: ljk4-1 Jan 7 2006, 07:39 PM

QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 7 2006, 01:56 PM)
^Yeah sad Creature/Ship  sad.gif
When I first saw it I though of a Vegetable (forgot the name of it)
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Gomtuu, which Starfleet code-named Tin Man.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Gomtuu

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Tin_Man

At least it wasn't a typical ST alien, by far.

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