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Posted by: BruceMoomaw Mar 23 2006, 03:59 AM

...brought to you by (shudder) Keith Cowing:
http://www.saturntoday.com/

Posted by: nprev Mar 23 2006, 04:56 AM

Shudder?

Posted by: Bob Shaw Mar 23 2006, 11:22 AM

QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 23 2006, 04:56 AM)

Shudder?

I think Bruce might be alluding to Keith Cowing's famously somewhat abrasive and undiplomatic manner, coupled with an obsessive interest in certain of the minutaie of the subject, and what might sometimes (heavens!) be mistaken for an overly smug and proprietorial attitude!

Still, he's good, and if he didn't exist he'd probably need to be invented!

Bob Shaw

Posted by: djellison Mar 23 2006, 11:46 AM

Yes - Keith thinks that it's not enough that they convinced C.P. to get the Cassini images to go online in the MER style - he thinks their press office should be pickign a nice one every day and making a press release about it. Clearly he doesn't understand the lengthy process of getting a press release out from the CICLOPS team to the public and that if they DID do it, Keith would be lambasting them for taking too long writing nice press releases and not doing science.

Cassini is an outreach MARVEL, but KC can't moan about that, so he just gripes at it in some small, pointless way instead. I'm suprised he hasnt latched onto MER yet. Give him time.

Doug

Posted by: nprev Mar 24 2006, 01:47 AM

Thank you, gentlemen...shuddering rationale noted!

Sounds like a fun guy in some ways, though. Couple of beers should have an interesting effect on such a persona...

Posted by: AlexBlackwell Mar 24 2006, 02:01 AM

QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 23 2006, 11:46 AM)

Yes - Keith thinks that it's not enough that they convinced C.P. to get the Cassini images to go online in the MER style - he thinks their press office should be pickign a nice one every day and making a press release about it. Clearly he doesn't understand the lengthy process of getting a press release out from the CICLOPS team to the public and that if they DID do it, Keith would be lambasting them for taking too long writing nice press releases and not doing science.

Cassini is an outreach MARVEL, but KC can't moan about that, so he just gripes at it in some small, pointless way instead. I'm suprised he hasnt latched onto MER yet. Give him time.

Editor's note: C'mon, Doug. Don't you think http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2006/03/another_stealth.html is a big deal?

And without NASA Watch, we wouldn't know that http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2006/03/mars_odyssey_in.html, would we? Oh, I forgot. We already http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=2473&hl= that.

Posted by: BruceMoomaw Mar 24 2006, 02:20 AM

I'm not going to go into any details about why he makes me shudder. Alex can give them to you, if he chooses, but I think there are some things Man was not meant to know...

Posted by: dvandorn Mar 24 2006, 03:29 AM

QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 23 2006, 08:20 PM)

...there are some things Man was not meant to know...

(sung to the tune of the main theme from the film "Exodus"):

"There are
Some things
Man was not
Meant to know,
And songs
Man was not
Meant to sing.
And this is
one of them."

-the other Doug

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