Well, with Oppy on solid ground now I think we can say she has officially arrived at the Etched terrain.
On a side note, is it my imagination, or is the dust in the air clearing a lot the past few days? I haven't seen a shot this clear in ages...or perhaps this etched terrain is on slightly higher ground than the surround sea of dunes?
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/543/1N176396686EFF5847P0607L0M1.JPG
Oppy should be able to traverse more quickly over this rocky ground. Is Victoria peeking up from the horizon ?
> Oppy should be able to traverse more quickly over this rocky ground.
Yes, but see that there are more sandy terrain until we reach Erebus.
> Is Victoria peeking up from the horizon ?
As already said before, Victoria is below the current line of sight.
It won't be visible until a point more or less at the half-way between Erebus and Victoria.
I see that around there, etched terrain, there are more outcrop than the north way from the Endurance crater. The question is why it is so?
1) The land is higher than the north?
2) This zone has stronger or more often winds?
3) The water started to flow first around Erebus?
4) "By that time there were more Roman cart traffic?
Rodolfo.
With my opinion Erebus, like Bonneville, is not a major scientific target, as it is filled with sand and probably dangerous to try to descend in. So it is possible that they even not attempt to get closer, taking a short cut through etched terrain toward Victoria. The later is anyway an important target, at it may exhibits a much thicker layer of evaporites than Endurance. So the situation is similar to Endurance, but there may be no way to descend into Victoria, or no way to get out.
At last we are now sure that etched terrain is exposed layers of evaporites.
But with RNeuhaus I wonder why terrains are so different, while sharing the same geological properties (20-40cms of sand on evaporites):
-Near Endurance, flat terrain with only small ripples
-Near Viking, larger dunes
-An now round Victoria-Erebus, dunes separated by troughs hollowed down to the evaporite layer.
Would it be wind channels on Mars? And why?
Maybe the ration sand/blueberries is responsible for the dunes variations? or some component of the evaporites?
Erebus is potentially an important target since it is a deep excavation in the Evaporite sequence which has much of the ejecta weathered and eroded away. We are essentially left with a big road cut: although the interior of Erebus is sand-filled, the walls are visible With Victoria, it is newer and fresher and has a huge ejecta blanket obscuring details.
IMO, a significant target here ought to the "dark basal unit" (D1, D2 and those &%$# dark angular pieces we see) since it is something we didn't see at Endurance.
--Bill
Let's see what the science instruments tell us about the etched terrain outcrop.
It seems the weekend will be spent there :
There may be dune fields, but there is also the evaporite pavement along the north side of Erebus, which might be easily travelled. We'll see what it looks like once we get to Erebus.
--Bill
Bill,
the evaporite pavement near Erebus is already known, and there is no hope to go deeper in Erebus than in Endurance, so I think it is why Erebus is not an important science target.
On the other hand, there is this pavement you mention along the norh side of Erebus, that may be easily traversed. (At rough guess, as it seems that there are many "Anatolia type" pits and cracks in the etched terrain). If they choose this path, they could spare some days to have a look into Erebus.
What makes Victoria very interesting, is that it is much deeper than Endurance, and so deeper layers of evaporite may be exposed, eventually underlying layers of another nature (which seem black in comparison with the evaporites). So They will certainly try to descend into Victoria, even if they could never get out of it. A similar bargain was made when discussing about descending into Endurance.
New PanCam images!
This is the full-res stitch from L2+L7 filters:
And we have a RAT - the first RAT in many months!!!
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/545/1P176575886ESF5847P2573R1M1.JPG
What previously appeared like outcrops on the South and West sides of Erebus are looking more and more like large dunes on the flat "pavement that" Oppy is standing on right now. Certainly deserves a closer look, but not as exciting as I originally thought.
On the move again:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/r/549/1R176930626EFF58CXP1390R0M1.HTML
Whew. Look at the Sol 549 MI's of the RAT hole done on Sol 546.
This is super-weird.
--Bill
I wish they would clean out they holes they just finished Rating.
Wouldn't it make sense to see what you just bored out!?
I don't think they CAN clean it out. The stuff is so soft and crumbly its like boring a hole in a cake and then trying to brush the crumbs out of the hole. The wire brush itself is stiff enough to keep dislodging more material from the bottom of the hole! And if the hole is nearly flat horizontal there's nowhere for them to fall after they have been brushed "away".
It's not necessarily all that soft.. if it were consistently that soft, they could just use the brush and ditch the RAT altogether. I suppose it's possible that every rock has a thin hard outer shell covering a largely soft interior, but that seems unlikely to me.
They could at least try to brush one of them. It is odd that they haven't ever tried.
Oo-ee, gooey, rich and chewy inside...
Golden, flaky, tender cakey outside..
Wrap the inside in the outside.........
Sorry, had to.
Now, there's an interesting new perspective on Areology -- that Mars is one giant Fig Newton!
And who knows -- maybe there are chocolate fudge volcanoes on Venus...
-the other Doug
Now it seems she fully reached the highway!...
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/r/549/1R176930626EFF58CXP1390R0M1.JPG
Near this point:
They might have used the RAT again on the same hole to make it deeper.
It does not look deeper though ...
Gee, two sols of images missing (547, 548), and a RAT hole covered in sand.
Do you think we had a major "cleaning event" that was more fierce than the previous ones ?
And if you look closely you can see some of the RATted blueberries faintly through the blown dust, so I think this is the same hole.
Given the dustdevil activity at Gusev, I'd suspect similar aeolian activity at Meridiani. We may see fewer (or no) DDs here because Meridiani is less dusty, being paved in blueberries. Recall the rapid changes on the rover tracks at Purgatory-- within a few days, the underlying dust was streaking away from the disturbed areas.
--Bill
PS-- Oppy did take a series of solar panel MI's, so we may know if there was a cleaning event soon. And we can check the solar panel output as it has been decreasing.
It's the same hole for sure - but wow - lot of dust dumped in there
One would hope that if the nearby dust was blown INTO the hole - then dust would also be blown OFF the rover
Doug
It looks to me like they went back in with the brush. Many of the features looked pitted rather than covered with dust.
Yeah, in hindsight NASA has surely brushed at least one RAT hole.. So ignore what I wrote about whatever, blah blah
Back in with a brush and made it filthy? I dont think so. The clean rat hole is before the dusty rat hole chronologically. Dust deposition makes a lot more sense to me
Doug
I'll have to stand over in the confused side of the aisle, too. Initially I saw this and thought "cuttings blown in", but I swear, the surface does look pitted and eroded. Thsi may be an optical illusion, and I'm waiting for more MI's.
--Bill
Strange crack in the terrain -
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/549/1N176927970EFF58B1P1700L0M1.JPG
Doug
A 360 degree panoramic view of Opportunity in the middle of the bedrock.
Taken with the L Navcam on Sol 550
jvandriel
Dilo:
Very interesting - a sort of limestone pavement, Karst style topography below the dunes... ...hmmm.
And I never really bought the mini craters, either!
Bob Shaw
Starting from Jvandriel last Pano, I made a magnified vertical projection (5 cm/pixel) in order to better identify the macro-cracks:
Any information for the total lack of images from Sol 547-548 ?
I guess we'll see with the next update at JPL - bad uplink perhaps - low priority imagery - who knows.
Doug
A panoramic view on Sol 553.
Taken with the L2 Pancam.
jvandriel
Jvandriel, I combined the last two panoramas you made in this vertical projection (10cm/pixel):
Came to the same conclusion too.
Even outcrops that were fully seen on previous panoramas are now partially hidden due to the nearby dunes.
Dilo,
great combos.
I have no problems with using my pano,s.
The pictures are from JPL and the American taxpayer.
jvandriel
An http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunityon MER website:
OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Opportunity Entering Cobble Field - sol 544-551,
July 18, 2005
Opportunity had a busy week! The rover has been using the rock abrasion tool ...
Edited: July 18?
Edited again: ... and I think that I have the answer to this:
Can we like, launch a 4GB memory stick to Mars? Those things are getting so cheap now, just send it there, plug it into the rover's USB port, and it's good to go. Right?
Of course, there would have to be some way to get the data back to Earth!
I volunteer to go pick it up! Can I pick up anything for anyone while I"m in the neighborhood?
Here's a great view back the way we came on Sol 553. Endurance Crater and the heatshield can easily be seen (amazingly).
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/553/1P177277286ESF58D4P2690L6M1.JPG
http://midnightmarsbrowser.blogspot.com/2005/08/opportunity-sol-553-endurance-on.html
mhoward: That IS amazing -- I didn't realize the images had eoungh resolution that we could enlarge a portion and still see the heatshield (albeit as a speck) and Endurance Crater. Perhaps OPPY was on a slight rise when it took the photo?
Yea they released sometime this grafic in a PDF: http://www.greuti.ch/oppy/profile_oppys_terrain.jpg
It's interesting in this Pancam pic around Endurance one see the same brighter plane as in these east views. So I guess now we can say thats probably due to the lack of dunes.
How did they get such a detailed profile? There are dips up ahead that Oppy cannot image yet. Mars Express perhaps?
MOLA could do something like that - 250m sampling roughly
Doug
With Spirit now near/at the summit, the news about what is happening on the other side of Mars are left on a secondary plane...
Oppy drove (backwards) on sol 561 and another drive is planned for today. She may be moving now or in a few hours.
http://nasa.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/forward_hazcam/2005-08-22/1F177986534EFF58DLP1212L0M1.JPG
From http://marswatch.astro.cornell.edu/merweb/merweb.pl:
Expected EDRs by sequence number and image type:
Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN EFF ERP Tot Description
--- -------- --- --- --- --- --- ---- -----------
562 p1205.03 2 0 0 2 0 4 front_haz_penultimate_0.5_bpp_pri18
562 p1214.05 2 0 0 2 0 4 front_haz_ultimate_4bpp_pri15
562 p1311.05 2 0 0 2 0 4 rear_haz_ultimate_1_bpp_pri24
562 p1875.00 10 0 0 10 0 20 navcam_5x1_az_90_3_bpp
562 p1876.00 10 0 0 10 0 20 navcam_5x1_az_270_1_bpp
562 p1877.00 20 0 0 20 0 40 navcam_360_start_LVL_AZ_18_1_bpp
562 p1960.00 4 0 0 4 0 8 navcam_lower_2x1_RVR_AZ_0_2_bpp
562 p2102.13 3 0 3 0 1 7 pancam_isc_voc_cal_L267
562 p2104.10 3 0 3 0 1 7 pancam_mtes_cal_target_L267
562 p2354.06 10 0 0 10 2 22 pancam_drive_direction_2bpp_L7R1
It isn't like what I'd expect on Earth.. I imagine the lack of moisture on Mars makes everything easily just fall off and/or blow away. Quite counter-intuitive.
Right, no moisture, no sticking. And yet some folks were swearing that the soil was muddy! But mud behaves quite differently from dry powder. I took a lot of criticism in another place for daring to say the soil was dry. Oh well, that's life!
Phil
I know where and what you mean Phil "There was frost - it must be wet"
This stuff is like talc or cement dust - dry but strangely adhesive at time.
Doug
There have been some images where the upturned dust/dirt/whatever in the tracks of one rover or another (Spirit?) looked suspiciously 'gooey'. And I suppose it's possible that water could liquify every once in a great while. Alternately, I suppose there could be the tiniest amount of water present everywhere, tiniest as in very, very, very tiny (so tiny as to be meaningless, except insofar as the amount is not 'actually' zero, except that it might as well be, but IT'S NOT).
In general, though, Mars is clearly quite dry, unlike as in that 1960s-era film I saw in science class, where the floating cartoon character said there could be life on Mars and flowers sprouted everywhere.. the cartoon character was wearing glasses, though. That's gotta count for something.. maybe the flowers only sprout every once in a while.
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2005-08-23/1P178078462EFF5900P2354R1M1.JPG
Could this be we are coming up to a ridge?? where the terrain finally starts going down hill.?
(or could we be looking into the dip of Erebus?) It looks a lot larger than Erebus
I have cropped and increased in size a little the above picture to enhance it a little
Oppy has been driving up a topographic high for a while and we're starting to be able to see beyond this "Sea of Dunes" to the (less dune-y) plain to the East and also back to Endurance and the plains to the North. After she gets past Erebus/TerraNova she should "crest the hill" and the Victoria rim may become visible.
--Bill
A 360 degree panoramic view of Opportunity.
Taken on Sol 562 with the L0 Navcam
jvandriel
Nice panorama! That's my version of your panoramic view.
http://xs44.xs.to/pics/05351/Opportunity_Sol_550_Rover.jpg (287.5 KB)
I have made another version of jvandriel's new pan, sol 562:
Oppy does not appear to be dead-- she's transferring data and is doing a lot of downsampled Navcams, evidently plotting a new route on the Erebus Highway onramp. No more word (AFAIK) on the 'puter reboot.
One odd series of images-- she seems to have done some back-and-forth-and-over driving across a dune crest, does not seem to be the usual post-drive uplink positioning maneuver:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/navcam/2005-08-29/1N173547490EDN55WGF0006L0M1.JPG
I'm looking forward to getting on the wide bedrock exposures of the Highway...
--Bill
Ah! That's right, I remember that maneuver. She must be flushing her flash memory.
--Bill
Drive on sol 569 planned. Opportunity is OK, I hope.
Expected EDRs by sequence number and image type:
Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN EFF ERP Tot Description
--- -------- --- --- --- --- --- ---- -----------
569 p1205.03 2 0 0 2 0 4 front_haz_penultimate_0.5_bpp_pri18
569 p1214.05 2 0 0 2 0 4 front_haz_ultimate_4bpp_pri15
569 p1235.04 2 0 0 2 0 4 front_hazcam_stumble_0.5_bpp_pri_56
569 p1311.06 2 0 0 2 0 4 rear_haz_ultimate_1_bpp_crit18
569 p1335.03 2 0 0 2 0 4 rear_hazcam_stumble_0.5_bpp_pri_56
569 p1916.05 12 0 0 12 0 24 navcam_6x1_lvlaz_103_3bpp_crit
569 p2111.05 13 13 0 0 2 28 pancam_cal_targ_L234567Rall
569 p2357.06 10 0 0 10 2 22 pancam_drv_dir_5x1_L2R2
569 p2530.10 13 0 0 13 2 28 pancam_skidmark_L234567Rall
569 p2531.10 13 13 0 0 2 28 pancam_wreckage_L234567Rall
569 p2599.09 5 0 0 5 2 12 pancam_ripple_fender_L257R12
....stumble, skidmark, wreckage? lol... what's that all about?
Different features seen on the bedrock, I would say.
They used "funny" names also some days ago (sol 565, 566?).
'Skidmark' is probably the point at which Oppy came to a halt with that reset
Doug
"Skidmark" could also be used to describe what was in our some of our shorts after Oppy abruptly came to a halt yet again...
Seems the engineers consider that some problem with the miniTES that was responsible.
'Engineers believe Opportunity is in good health, although the team will refrain from using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer pending further analysis of the software reset.'
Nice view off onto the plains: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=38738058&size=l
And it seems that the dark "un-dune-y" area on the horizon is getting broader, so we are making progress. And I think I can make out the Erebus Highway ahead of us.
--Bill
Yes, but see that Oppy still has to dodge a lot dunes on the way to the Highway.
Actually, she is now facing NE (check the pancam images on mhoward's post) so it seems that the MER team are planning some zig-zag.
This is what I think is a possible path to the highway, superimposed on sol 569 navcam panorama (heavily compressed).
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