I know for a fact that Voyager 1 took at least one picture of Earth. Does anyone have any idea where raw data can be found? Or any data at all, for that matter? The only online image I can find is this one: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA00013
You mean besides this one:
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA02228
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA00453
http://obs.nineplanets.org/psc/pbd.html
Yeah, I already know about that one. I'm looking for much closer ones.
I don't know if closer ones exist. I have searched for the raw data for the earth moon shot, but haven't found it.
Ted
I did the same - strangely the Voyager data sets dont start "0001" they start "0006" - and I'm guessing the first 5 are infact calib, checkout, and the images we're talking about.
Doug
I'm pretty sure I've seen closer images somewhere, but where, well, I have no idea. Then again, maybe I'm just confused. I know Mariner 10 took closeup images of Earth, maybe that's what I saw. But still...
*In case I implied otherwise, I'm also looking for Voyager 2 images of Earth.
Did the GALILEO spacecraft take such an image as well?
Just a few
http://www.solarviews.com/cap/earth/earthgal.htm
Galileo took far more image data during its Earth flybys than it was able to return from Jupiter.
And some of the most interesting images of earth from deep space probes contain almost no detail of the planet at all.... (imho)
This is the problem with the older missions, there is not so much online but in real libraries etc. I am still loocking for Voyager press kits and other documents online, but not much luck so far.
I am sure the raws of the famous Earth-Moon shot are at some place, they have to be. The Earth-Moon pictures were only made by Voyager 1 (launched second), the reference for this is an old issue of National Geographic (1990) from the Neptune encounter. The idea to take a picture with both bodies came after the launch of Voyager 2, Ed Stone said there. Maybe there are shots from greater distance (optical navigation or check out) from both probes, but a far as I know close ups exist only made by Voyager 1.
A great source for Voyager pictures is:
http://pds-rings.seti.org/catalog/vgriss.html
But there is nothing you are looking for.
Analyst
Btw. deglr6328: What does this picture show and which craft made it?
I think it's the Galileo laser-comms experiment.
Doug
yes, it is the http://lasers.jpl.nasa.gov/PAPERS/GOPEX/gopex_s2.pdf.
Enhanced version of the original Voyager image of Earth.
Perspective.
---ups
Hey, I can see my house!
Did you remove the sunbeam purposely? Or did it just disappear when you enhanced it?
Your image certainly brings home the Pale Blue Dot theme.
At the distance Voyager 1 was from Earth in 1990, what would our planet's relative
magnitude be?
So it was Voyager 1 which turned its camera back to the planets and took the 60 photo mosaic ( 39 wide-angle and 21 narrow-angle images ) photo now known as the 'Family portrait of the solar system' ... Pale Blue dot press meeting of June 1990.
Here's a link to JPL's Solar System Simulator that shows the location of the Moon as seen by Voyager 1 on the day it took the 'Pale Blue Dot' image.
http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?tbody=301&vbody=-31&month=2&day=14&year=1990&hour=00&minute=00&fovmul=1&rfov=0.01&bfov=30&porbs=1&showsc=1
It brings home just how unresolvable the Moon would appear on the image!
Hardly surprising, as the Moon is far smaller and far darker than our planet.
BTW, the crescent view of the Earth and the Moon is the first of its kind.
Other than from Mariner 10
http://www.solarviews.com/raw/earth/em.jpg
Hi there,
Found that one in my Archives .To be honest, I dont know whether its Voyager I or II .Shame on me !
Dirk,
It's Voyager 1, captured on September 18, 1977.
I just checked with a friend at the Rings Node and he said that since neither the 1977 or 1990 images were part of an "encounter," they weren't part of the archiving process that sent data to the PDS. However, he expressed confidence that the data was lying around JPL somewhere, and said he'd check into it.
--Emily
That is exciting news. I would love to see the dataset that included those post-launch Earth and Moon shots. Likewise, I believe Voyager imaged Mars as it crossed it’s orbit. That would be a fun group of images to see as well.
Has anyone ever seen an image of the flat white optical calibration plate ?
I realize the picture would be a white blob, but we had a thread a while back about probes that had photographed themselves. As bad as that Voyager image would be, detail wise, it still counts.
I have a large collection of Voyager Press Kits, so I guess I'll have to make these available in .pdf as soon as possible ;-)
What I'm also interested in are the videos produced by KCET Public Television network which ran a nightly "Jupiter Watch" show during the months February and March 1979... about time someone put those on YouTube !
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-048&cid=release_2010-048
dear JPL, what about releasing the raw data?
Patience, young grasshopper! And stay tuned.
Dear JPL data archivists,
Can we please see the raw images of the Pale Blue Dot now?
Its been 22 years!
Both my daughters (one finishing college and one about to go) were both born after 1990!
..and the computers we have now have speeds greater than 16Mhz, and with memory space greater than 32Meg <really!>
<well...except for my still running 1974 DEC PDP8 with a blazing clock speed of 1.2Mhz and 24KILO-bytes of core memory....>
"Can we please see the raw images of the Pale Blue Dot now?"
That would be nice.
BTW, some images from beginning of mission are unavailable too. For example famous images of Earth and Moon.
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John, I think he's referring to the V1(?) post-launch shot of the Earth & Moon in the same frame.
Here is the published 'earth & moon' image from Voyager 1 (1977)
Emily! I saw your presentation on the Voyager 35th video, can't wait to see the full set of images! After 6 years, this thread will finally have closure.
I have the data, but am still not sure if I'm permitted to post it or not. It's been a while since I've asked about this, so I'll ping them again.
Will we ever see the cruise data? I'm as interested in the cruise observations of the gas giants as I am in the Earth departure sequence and Pale Blue Dot.
all of the data is in PDS
Jupiter
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/vg1_vg2-j-iss-2-edr-v3.0/
Saturn
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/vg1_vg2-s-iss-2-edr-v2.0/
Neptune
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/vg2-n-iss-2-edr-v1.0/
Uranus
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/vg2-u-iss-2-edr-v1.0/
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the online data volumes and the mirrors for most things
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/volumes/
all the voyager and mirrors EDR's and RDR's
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/volumes/voyager.html#vgrISSEDR-J
two SEARCH tools
https://pds.nasa.gov/tools/data-search/
and atlas 2 -- with preview for ? most ? images
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/search/
Hmm. I had not noticed those, either. You can download them, change their extensions to raw, and open them in Photoshop with a width of 1280 and a height of 801. The couple of examples I've looked at so far don't look like cruise data, they look like encounter data, but according to the readme files there should be cruise data lurking in there somewhere.
^ I tried your method in ImageJ and it worked splendidly. Thanks Emily! The search is on!
Never thought I'd be the person to give this decade-old thread some sense of finality. I still can't find the Earth and Moon pics, but here, finally, is the complete set of raw family portrait images in chronological order:
http://imgur.com/a/l29lA/all
The original files are 055560.023 through 0055590.010 in the QEDR volume VGR_1223.
Splendid!
Thanks! I'm having a lot of fun digging through the cruise data even though I don't have an automated way of doing so. This feels almost as good as the first time I found the raw encounter sets.
Hey guys! Not too long ago I stumbled across http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA00450 from the NASA Photojournal that shows not only the "Pale Blue Dot" image, but also a full narrow-angle ISS view of Venus; an equivalent "Pale Yellow Dot" image, if you will. A wide-angle ISS view of the general area used as a context is also featured in this Photojournal entry. Here's the full image of Venus by Voyager 1, cropped from the Photojournal entry:
the old voyager data is here
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/voyager/
but some of it is missing ( lost real to real tapes )
So see post #37 in this thread
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2857&view=findpost&p=184324
there are a few different types of file format for the old voyager 1 & 2 tv cameras
the old compressed PDS *.imq ( IMQ )
like in this example
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/vo1_vo2-m-vis-2-edr-v2.0/vo_1001/f122sxx/
the *.img / *.lbl normal PDS format
like in this example
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/voyager/VGISS_0004/DIONE/
or the original tv images
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/voyager/edr/VGR_1201/MAMQTV/001010/DATA/
the tv images are in a odd format
8 bit 1280x801
A few posts up I posted a link to all 60 raw images on imgur and the names of the directories the originals can be found in on PDS.
Carl Sagan reads ‘The Pale Blue Dot’:
https://vimeo.com/300050495
I've been trying to open some of the EDR files from Voyager 2, circa 1985, from the period before the Uranus flyby, and all I'm getting are garbled frames (see example below).
I'm using the ImageJ RAW import facility, setting the frame size to 1200 x 801, which works for most EDR images——just not for a significant fraction of the archived data from both Voyagers prior to this point.
This is the main folder of images I'm trying to access:
https://pdsimage2.wr.usgs.gov/Missions/Voyager/qedr/VGR_1241/
Hopefully, someone here will have better luck getting these to display correctly!
Made some headway with this Voyager 1 image (labeled 1745S1-034 in the EDR file), but could well be a corrupted frame:
isis3 opens up the imq and the img( linked above) files for that image just fine
the imq file is here
https://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/voyager/vg_0027/saturn/c3395xxx/
screen shot of the imported imq file
Thanks, John. However, I'm using this image as an example of an EDR file that doesn't open correctly. Of course, there are myriad images that don't have corresponding IMG or IMQ versions (such as the content of this directory: https://pdsimage2.wr.usgs.gov/Missions/Voyager/qedr/VGR_1241/MBMQTV/). These are the EDR products I'm really interested in.
Hi Ian-
Have you let the PDS folks know about your problem?
John
John,
That's a good suggestion and a prudent course of action. I'll report back here when I get a reply.
Thanks!
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