Just dug up a small booklet with nice logo of TRW 1979...
TRW : Thompson – Ramo – Wooldridge
American corporation established in 1958 by the merger of Thompson products with Ramo-Wooldridge Corp, renamed TRW Inc in 1965. TRW developed missile systems and the Pioneer 10 and 11 deep space probes. By 2002, Northrop Grumman acquired TRW defense and Goodrich Corporation took over TRW Aerospace group. Nowadays TRW Automotive Holdings Corp is the world’s leader in automotive safety.
About Pioneer, if someone knows about any doc (HR photo, drawing) of the trusters on both side of the dish, please let me know it... (got a new 3D model again for Celestia but cannot end it because of this detail)
Tx!
Phil, that is just a groovy graphic (in the purest early '70s sense)...almost looks like a Peter Max work. Thanks!!!
I would love a pic of the TH 364-4 Star upper stage that is following the pioneer 10 to the stars.
BTW I'm searching a High Resolution of an official TRW photo showing Pioneer 10 during check-out by 3 engineers wearing TRW jackets...
Well here is a bad version of that TRW photo:
While at it, I'm also searching a high resolution of:
elchristou, take a look at:
http://ails.arc.nasa.gov/CumulusImages/Previews/PCD0349/Photos/768%20x%20512/22.jpg
December must be the month for Pioneer 10 & 11 memorabilia
http://www.cloudynights.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=12800&password=&sort=7&thecat=997
Am I correct in recalling the Pioneers are now too distant for contact, and might, as far as we know, still be functioning ??
The mission page will tell you when the Pioneers stopped transmitting
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/about/history/pioneer.html
cheers
Press Releases (Obits? ) Here
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/pion10_pr_20030225.txt
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/text/pioneer-11_endops.txt
As I recall, one of the early Interplanetary Pioneers, maybe #9, was still transmitting some 5 or 7 years ago when they did a "what-the-hell" look at it as part of a Pioneer 10/11 celebration of some sort. I don't know if they've looked since.
From Wikipedia:
Pioneer 6: December 8, 2000 Successful telemetry contact for about two hours.
Pioneer 7: March 31, 1995 Tracked successfully. The spacecraft and one of the science instruments were still functioning.
Pioneer 8: August 22, 1996 The spacecraft commanded to switch to the backup TWT. Downlink signal was re-acquired, one of the science instruments again functioning.
Pioneer 9: 1983 Spacecraft failed.
So only 9 is not functioning, the rest are still active!
Hello,
the only picture I've found about the thrusters of Pioneer, is located in this picture:
It's only some art picture but the thrusters may look like the original ones. Hope that helps a bit.
Tx, but actually the thrusters are quite tiny and almost invisible at this scale... They are included in this block on each side but I have no close up shot to depict them correctly...
Being the self-proclaimed UMSF photo-librarian I have to keep coming up with Pioneer 10 photos
{Grasping at straws here}
Would anyone know if 'accurate' source images were used in the model Pioneer spacecraft shown in one of those Star Trek movies ?
(Not 'V-ger', a Pioneer craft was shown being blasted by Romuloids or some such, and as I recall the craft was shown in close up in when it was blasted)
If your not embarrassed to use a print of a sci-fi movie for source info on Pioneer thrusters, might be worthwhile checking. IIRC, V-ger was portrayed minus some thermal blankets. If Hollywood used original pics of Pioneer for the movie model it might be something to check on. Especially if you already have the DVD on hand and can single frame thru the scene.
Sorry I don't recall exactly which movie it was and there are rather several of them . . .
Well, hoping to assist in this effort (and also help out poor Phil!) I found this:
Might not be much help (esp. because the spacecraft is still under construction here), but it's the most detail I've seen.
@tasp
The Movie was: Star Trek V - The final frontier
The Pioneer model used there, seems to be very accurate in my opinion. but the thrusters are not visible in that scene, because the spacecraft is shown from it's HGA side. The klingon ship then fires it's disruptors on the spacecraft and then it tumbles very fast -> No chance to see the thrusters in detail.
Would the Pioneer H spacecraft that hangs in the Milestones of Flight Gallery at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C. have accurate thrusters for your use? I have a few shots of it somewhere around here. I am sure that one of us will find himself or herself in that museum and willing to take a few close-up digital images of the thrusters.
Just do not fall while leaning over the balcony trying to get the perfect shot.
In fact, I'm working on an article to celebrate the 35th anniversary of the Pioneer 10 - Jupiter flyby of December 1973. The article will be illustrated with seldom seen photographs, which I'm keeping off a bit for the moment, but I can share one "specially in preview" for UMSF:
the other Phill
I guess everybody noted in the photo above, how the Frank Drake/Carl Sagan Pioneer Plaque is attached to the frame with the drawing inwards in order to protect it from micro-meteorites. Here's one more photo, but I'll have to keep the rest for the UMSF photo of the month topic over at the "EVA & Misc" part of the UMSF forum:
This has been sent in by Infocat13
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Pioneer_10_on_it's_kickmotor.jpg
Here are links to the Pioneer on display at the National Air and Space Museum. Not a lot of detail, but maybe it helps.
http://collections.nasm.si.edu/media/full/A19770451000g1.JPG
http://www.nasm.si.edu/exhibitions/gal100/pioneerback.jpg
http://books.google.com/books?id=JjgWWi47T3wC&pg=PA153&lpg=PA153&dq=pioneer+10+national+air+and+space+museum&source=web&ots=hypGK5zWzs&sig=vsNjFJDCdSLqXuf9SxbKsfk39Gg&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA153,M1
Hopefully not OT, but just what the heck is that cutout in the parabolic dish for? My best guess is that it's there for the thruster to provide pitch control without eroding the dish or introducing an opposing torque?
IIRC, the large box next to the thruster looks sunward through the cut out in the dish. The dish was probably pretty close to the ID of the payload fairing, so the instrument could not extend out past the OD of the non-notched dish.
35 years ago, my favorite spacecraft "" Pioneer 10 "" got Jupiter in sight.
Closest approach was on 5th December 1973 as the spacecraft passed 130000 kilometers over the cloud tops
painting by Dutch space artist Ed Hengeveld to celebrate the "" 35 years Jupiter passage ""
Didn't tackle the motor issue but I've found more rare Pioneer hardware photos and logos, which I will share with the UMSF community
Here's a nice Pioneer-Saturn logo:
Excellent work Don... but that's focused on the spacecraft as Your painting is larger showing more of the Milky way.
Just curious, did this work get an official NASA photo number?
Your painting is larger showing more of the Milky way.
Yes, a scan showing the entire art is on a page with some of my NASA paintings, at:
http://www.donaldedavis.com/BIGPUB/PIONEER.jpg
Just curious, did this work get an official NASA photo number?
A NASA Ames 8 X 10 paper print I have has this ID felt penned on the back:
AC83-0351-1
I have a copy somewhere with an official caption page taped to the back with a 'key' diagram identifying all the planets. I also have the sketches for the work. At one point I a detailed perspective 'master drawing' of the spacecraft was prepared, a task now done by computer using a digital model.
Don
This is definitively my favorite topic: Pioneer spacecraft near Jupiter and the Imaging Photo Polarimeter (IPP), which aimed according to preset ground commands, measured Jupiter's intensity every 1/1000th of a second in Red & Blue light.
After transmission of the number-coded intensities, super-imposition of R & B elements produced two-color images
Question about the Pioneer 10 & 11 plaque.
At the bottom, the plaque shows the planets and the spacecraft going away after passing Jupiter... would the Pioneer 11 plaque show the spacecraft going away after Saturn?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Pioneer_plaque.svg
Pioneer 11 was not targeted for Saturn until after Pioneer 10 had a successful Jupiter encounter (which was after Pioneer 11 had launched). There was only 1 design used for both plaques.
As promised one more Pioneer hardware photo showing the spacecraft during Thermal checks in 1971:
Hi, could anybody help me with a small Pioneer plaque mistery?
There is an article about Voyager spacecrafts live longevity in seriouse czech aviation&space magazine from 1987. Among others there is this http://mek.kosmo.cz/novinky/online/2014/img/Pioneer%2011-plaketa.jpg of plaque with caption mentioning Voyagers. We all know that both Pioneers has this http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_plaque#External_links and Voyagers this http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record.
It is obviouse that author of that article made a mistake with plaque picture but I would realy like to know what was the source of it. I couldn't find that version of depicted human figures with three children on the plaque anywhere on the internet.
Linda Salzman Sagan as an author of Pioneer plaque art work should know if its fake or one of her original drafts, but its difficult to ask her.
Maybe someone here would know it as well.
Thanks
Edit: latest info says the source of pictures in czech article should be Spaceflight magazine.
I'd guess it's somebody's attempt at humour.
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