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| Posted on: Feb 22 2006, 07:01 AM | |
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Look, the simplest explanation for the official announcement for retiring Atlantis NOW is that it significantly degrades the option of trying to continue flying the shuttles post-2010. Griffin wants two solutions: 1) Develop CEV 2) Stop manned spaceflight without option 3) Keep the shuttles staggering along until the next disaster. The problem with option three is that it is, year-on-year, cheaper then option one...but it does, however, inevitably lead to option 2! |
| Forum: Manned Spaceflight · Post Preview: #42691 · Replies: 84 · Views: 94823 |
| Posted on: Feb 10 2006, 04:36 AM | |
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Like I said back in November: QUOTE Now, I've been on the wrong end of an federal department investigation, so I'm somewhat cynical about the process. But this would not be happening is, for good reasons or bad, high up folks in NASA did not have significant concerns about Dawn's prospects for success. I really think that you cannot separate this review from the radical descoping the mission unwent even prior to the stand-down. I'd sure like to know how much is left in the DAWN's budget item...that plus the launch costs could be a pretty nice piece of change to toss somewhere. |
| Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #40973 · Replies: 248 · Views: 189713 |
| Posted on: Feb 9 2006, 02:22 PM | |
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QUOTE (JRehling @ Feb 9 2006, 10:43 AM) Let me suggest a conspiracy theory behind the EO cancelation. While money is sure to be tight, and an axe is going to be aimed somewhere, the choice of EO and TPF may have been performed by someone who wanted to see as little as possible in the way of cuts and reckoned slyly that those two missions are most likely to get a reprieve (by Congressional fiat). If so, putting them in harm's way, which they will, as my theory goes, escape, leads to the least eventual cuts, because putting some other projects in harm's way might have been harder to reverse. In other words, the sort of campaign that saved NH is not to be considered an extraordinary follow-on to "the system", but part of the de facto system. And in some sense, these missions aren't in jeopardy until a similar movement fails to save them. Warm oceans nearby and earthlike worlds far off should perk some interest, what say... Yeah, that was my thought as well. THe old "close the Washington Monument" trick. |
| Forum: Jupiter · Post Preview: #40866 · Replies: 177 · Views: 228799 |
| Posted on: Feb 9 2006, 02:16 PM | |
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QUOTE (Sunspot @ Feb 9 2006, 10:04 AM) First good closeup of the layered rocks..unfortunately half the pic is missing. http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...55P2578L2M1.JPG Look at those fine, smooth layers on the face of the rock pointing to the camera. If I were on Earth, I'd think that was a water-lain sed for sure...in fact, I'd be looking for the f-word! |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #40864 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350196 |
| Posted on: Feb 6 2006, 07:44 PM | |
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The granular lower level intrigues me. Could be an ashfall layer, or we could be seeing grain size differences based on water velocity. To go way, way out on a limb, there seems to be some periodicity within the coarse layer. Perhaps a series of flooding events? Above it is the finer-grained material...perhaps lacrustine sediments overlaying the initial coarse material following the water filling the basin? |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #40378 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350196 |
| Posted on: Feb 6 2006, 05:42 PM | |
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QUOTE (David @ Feb 6 2006, 03:51 PM) If Oberg knows that the Russian picture is "ripped off" then he ought to be able to identify the source. (He doesn't.) If he doesn't know what the source is, then he has no basis for accusing the Russians of ripping it off. Either he's sloppy, or he's making unsupportable accusations -- I don't know which. One Moon base concept shown on the Komsomolskaya Pravda website on January 27 (http://www.kp.ru/upimg/photo/57527.jpg) was carefully labeled in Russian, showing the helium-3 refinery and the storage and transshipment equipment. But within three hours space observer Rusty Barton had posted on an Internet space policy newsgroup the URL of the original artwork by Roger Arno (http://www.challenger.org/pacct/Images/LunarBase-fs.jpg), with the notice: “copyright 1996-97, California Institute of Technology. All rights reserved. Further reproduction is prohibited.” |
| Forum: Lunar Exploration · Post Preview: #40354 · Replies: 19 · Views: 24168 |
| Posted on: Feb 4 2006, 03:30 PM | |
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QUOTE (peter59 @ Feb 4 2006, 08:51 AM) This is incomprehensible to me. Dawn may be cancelled, but congress approved next 6.2 billion dollars for ISS and pseudo-experiments like this SuitSat experiment. SuitSat experiment Spirit, Cassini, New Horizons and Dawn it's real space exploration. Gravity Probe B it's real great scientific experiment ! SuitSat and other "great" ISS's experiments (mostly biological), it's scientific humbug. Wasted 100 billion dollars and counting, therefore no money for Down, no money for real science. Just to pile on a bit, you should realize that Gravity Probe B...is probably not the best example for you to bring up, for reasons of economy and of scientific merit. I'll just leave it at that. |
| Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #40039 · Replies: 248 · Views: 189713 |
| Posted on: Jan 26 2006, 05:14 PM | |
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I'm going to go out on a limb and argue for a sedimentary remnant, perhaps bounded by a crater older than the surrounding lava flows. The walls of the crater protected the sedimentary materials inside from the lava that covered the rest of the ancient lake bed. |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #38496 · Replies: 126 · Views: 144743 |
| Posted on: Jan 26 2006, 05:09 PM | |
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| Forum: Mars · Post Preview: #38494 · Replies: 46 · Views: 51866 |
| Posted on: Jan 25 2006, 04:42 PM | |
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I guess the way to think about some sort of floating Titan lander is as a succession of individual landers as opposed to a mobile roving platform that can provide a unified geological data set over a long distances. Seen in this way, 10 to 20 (maybe more) discrete landing zone portraits would seem to me to be able to establish a whole lot of ground truth, perhaps even more than a long term roving mission that focused on a much smaller area. |
| Forum: Titan · Post Preview: #38278 · Replies: 86 · Views: 87986 |
| Posted on: Jan 23 2006, 02:36 PM | |
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 23 2006, 08:38 AM) I do wonder, though, whether it might be possible to augment its previous budget with the $35 million that goes to the next Discovery Mission of Opportunity, allowing it to fly after all, albeit late. NASA might be amenable to this way out of the problem, given how close the craft is to completion. I intend to look into this. Bruce, to me the question really is whether the NASA managers for DAWN feel any confidence that the contractor running the project can even tell them what the overrun is going to me to complete the project. I can't speak to the technical side of it, but it is pretty clear the budgeting assumptions used in the proposal were way ouf of whack with reality. Right now we have an almost completed spacecraft...but that is a sunk cost. How much is on the table: 1) There will be funds left in the project budget category for completion of the spacecraft and operations. 2) NASA has got to fund the launch for the bird...how much is that? The launch cost could easily be moved into the next Discovery mission and that would help accelerate the following mission. |
| Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #37796 · Replies: 248 · Views: 189713 |
| Posted on: Jan 22 2006, 04:50 AM | |
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I suspect this project is done. Sound like there are significant technical problems and no reason to believe that the DAWN team can overcome them at a cost near the capped award. I wonder how much unexpended funding will be available to roll back into the Discovery program account. Maybe enough for a couple of Missions of Opportunity.... |
| Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #37612 · Replies: 248 · Views: 189713 |
| Posted on: Jan 22 2006, 04:40 AM | |
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QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 21 2006, 01:47 AM) That's a nifty little write-up, Emily. Thanks! |
| Forum: Cassini general discussion and science results · Post Preview: #37611 · Replies: 25 · Views: 30786 |
| Posted on: Jan 21 2006, 04:51 AM | |
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QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jan 21 2006, 01:21 AM) Another Stardust press confeence coming up next week, I wonder if they've found something unusual NASA ANNOUNCES STARDUST MISSION MEDIA UPDATE The next Stardust comet mission media briefing is at 1 p.m. EST (noon, CST), Tuesday, Jan 24 in room 135, Building 2, Johnson Space Center, 2101 NASA Parkway, Houston. The briefing will be live on NASA TV with questions also from reporters at participating agency centers. NASA experts will discuss the analysis of comet and interstellar dust samples returned by the Stardust spacecraft. Participants: -- Dr. Donald Brownlee, Stardust Principal Investigator, University of Washington, Seattle -- Dr. Peter Tsou, Deputy Principal Investigator, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. -- Dr. Michael Zolensky, Stardust Curator and Co-investigator, Johnson Space Center I don't think so. If there was a big finding, there would be NASA brass there as well. |
| Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #37474 · Replies: 236 · Views: 178460 |
| Posted on: Jan 19 2006, 07:11 PM | |
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Ok, now just get this thing spinning and the main engine away.... |
| Forum: New Horizons · Post Preview: #37130 · Replies: 571 · Views: 385941 |
| Posted on: Jan 19 2006, 07:07 PM | |
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Wow, you can even see the little control jets firing.... |
| Forum: New Horizons · Post Preview: #37120 · Replies: 571 · Views: 385941 |
| Posted on: Jan 19 2006, 07:05 PM | |
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I love this graphical telemetry data screen! |
| Forum: New Horizons · Post Preview: #37115 · Replies: 571 · Views: 385941 |
| Posted on: Jan 18 2006, 06:42 PM | |
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 18 2006, 06:11 PM) Easy for you to say -- as of right now, assuming NH gets off before the Jupiter-assist window closes, I will be 59 years old when it gets to Pluto. If we slip past early February and have to take one of the direct-to-Pluto trajectories, I'll be 64 or 65 when NH arrives. Not that I'm being morbidly concerned about my own lifespan, but when you start talking about the range between 59 and 65, especially in white American males, you're looking at the age range during which a majority of us die. I *really* want to see NH encounter Pluto. My odds of seeing it are *greatly* enhanced if it takes 9 and not 15 years to get there... -the other Doug Cheer up...as a white male at 50 your life expectancy according to the CDC is 78.5...and that's not even taking into account benefits due to a (likely) higher than average SES! http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lifexpec.htm |
| Forum: New Horizons · Post Preview: #36824 · Replies: 571 · Views: 385941 |
| Posted on: Jan 7 2006, 03:25 AM | |
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You misunderstand that document. That is the OIG report designed to highlight the false accounting NASA was engaged in, not a finding of law. In essence, Gore was trying to commandeer a launch of the Shuttle for a campaign event in the 2000 election. If you actually READ the report, you'll see what a boondoggle this thing was from the beginning. Check out Table 4, in particular. In any event, Triana AS BUILT was designed to fly on Shuttle, in part to maximize the PR value to Gore from the mission. (Ah, the days of the "All Woman Crew" and Triana...magical!) NASA has far, far, FAR better things to use $150 million on than Gore's vanity satellite. |
| Forum: Earth Observations · Post Preview: #35030 · Replies: 174 · Views: 635596 |
| Posted on: Jan 7 2006, 12:26 AM | |
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Repeat After Me: TRIANA MUST FLY ON SHUTTLE There is NO way given the state of the fleet that the scientific returns of the mission justify a shuttle flight under the post-Columbia, post-RTF situation. That's not to say the individual instruments shouldn't fly...but as long as they were on this platform, they were going to be doing nothing but provide a continuous view of a (cough) University of Maryland clean room. I'm a heck of a lot more agitated about the LANDSAT disaster than this mercy killing. I'm sorry, but Bob Park is letting his partisanship get in the way of his reason. |
| Forum: Earth Observations · Post Preview: #35007 · Replies: 174 · Views: 635596 |
| Posted on: Jan 3 2006, 06:29 PM | |
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Unbelievable. They should have done this two or three years...I don't see how we will have a continuous Landsat dataset having to start development of a new platform now. |
| Forum: Earth Observations · Post Preview: #34349 · Replies: 7 · Views: 14012 |
| Posted on: Jan 1 2006, 05:01 PM | |
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I think it is going to be pretty difficult to argue for/design a complex lander on Europa without establishing ground truth with a simpler lander. If there is no lander on the next mission, then I suspect it will be two missions beyond before we see a very capable lander. |
| Forum: Jupiter · Post Preview: #34028 · Replies: 131 · Views: 232847 |
| Posted on: Jan 1 2006, 04:57 PM | |
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QUOTE (The Messenger @ Dec 30 2005, 06:30 PM) If we are talking purely about alignment and origin, I still think the oceans are worthly of a good head scratch - Magnetic moments originating in the oceans could be selectively magnitizing the underlying core materials - a small dynamo driving the otherwise chaotic ramblings of a much larger one. This is consistent with metal deposits in the continental crusts piling up in anomalies, since they don't get their daily dose of order. As I recall, Triana also has to go up on Shuttle, which has posed a problem on the manifest even before Columbia.... |
| Forum: Mars · Post Preview: #34027 · Replies: 31 · Views: 55677 |
| Posted on: Dec 18 2005, 04:18 AM | |
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Looks a bit like Pot-of-Gold. |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #31955 · Replies: 82 · Views: 96847 |
| Posted on: Dec 7 2005, 02:10 PM | |
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 7 2005, 07:37 AM) Since the ESA -- to my amazement -- seems to be serious about flying ExoMars (maybe serious enough to cancel BepiColombo for it), the obvious question is: should both it AND MSL be sent to phyllosilicate sites, or should one of them be sent to a different type of terrain, such as a Meridiani-type sulfate deposit? (A pretty strong case can be made, actually, that they SHOULD both go to diferent phyllosilicate sites.) So that's the deal, then? I was reading the Bepi cancellation as evidence that ESA science was going to be slowly strangled.... |
| Forum: Mars Express & Beagle 2 · Post Preview: #30287 · Replies: 66 · Views: 73422 |
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