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| Posted on: Dec 13 2004, 09:05 AM | |
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Working off a spectrum is fine - if you have L2,3,4,5,6,7 - but when you just have L2, 5, 7 or L4,5,6 - youre best bet is always going to be just merging them as channels in photoshop - the challenge is - how to best represent the actual wavelenghts of the filters for each of those images - especially L2 and L7. I've got the RAD files properly converted using teh neuences of each filter now - I'm getting images very similar to that of nasa - just slightly colourifically different if I use L2 or L7 instead of L4 and L6 respectively. L4,5,6 comes out PERFECTLY - one of my favorite images of the whole mission - theres two frames there - L4,5,6 However ![]() - this is using L2,5,6 - see the slight hue to the image compared to the NASA PAO release - that's almost certainly due to the difference between L2 and L4. I guess I could just sort out a levels-set that compensates that much - and ditto for L257 as well - but I'd rather represent each level more accurately. Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 13 2004, 09:04 AM | |
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QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Dec 13 2004, 02:30 AM) I was kind of looking forward to looking back down and seeing the tracks of where Opportunity travelled inside the crater. But apparently the perspective is not good from the current location. Do you suppose they might move her to a different location on the rim before doing the panorama? Looks to me like they've done it - a full NAVcam panorama. Not Pancam. No point in another 3 sols of UHF being lost to the third colour panorama of Endurence crater. And yes - I see no reason why one wavelength wouldnt spot the etched terrain off in the distance and bring it out very brightly - it shows up - like most rock in the area - very bright in the UV. ![]() Might we be seing that feature even from this distance? ![]() 1m/pixel of the next few sols driving. |
| Forum: Opportunity · Post Preview: #2696 · Replies: 109 · Views: 61160 |
| Posted on: Dec 12 2004, 11:24 PM | |
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Going on the image time- it would appear that Oppy was re-born at 18:25 GMT today. That's 322 days and 12 hrs since it's very first image - which was taken on Sol 1 at 14:47 local. It is now Sol 315 - Opportunity has outlived its design life by 225 sols, or 350% Pando - I dont know if a special rush was put on getting those to the Exploratorium pages - but if it was ( or even if it wasnt ) can you give your 'contact' a very big thankyou on behalf of all of us! Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 12 2004, 11:08 PM | |
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Ohh - such sweet, flat, WONDEROUS driving terratory I wonder how the power situation will change there. On the southern inside of the crater near Burns cliff - it was north tilted and got good power - on the easter edge - it got western tilt and now, on the outside of the western edge - it gets western tilt. Would be interesting to see how many WHr's it's getting now Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 12 2004, 10:46 PM | |
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A watched file listing never updates Doug |
| Forum: Opportunity · Post Preview: #2668 · Replies: 109 · Views: 61160 |
| Posted on: Dec 12 2004, 09:37 PM | |
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Anyone got any ideas as to better represent each image in an RGB sequence so as to better represent the wavelength at which it was taken. i.e. L2 isnt classic R (255,0,0) L5 isnt G (0,255,0) and L7 isnt B ( 0,0,255 ) - so to truely use the images we get in the most appropriate way - we need to use different channels - or perhaps a combination of layers multiplied by something etc etc. http://www.mxer.com/sandbox/wavelengthtoRG...lengthToRGB.exe rather excellently converts from wavelength to RGB value as a starter for ten. Any ideas? Doug |
| Forum: Tech, General and Imagery · Post Preview: #2662 · Replies: 5 · Views: 11435 |
| Posted on: Dec 12 2004, 09:11 PM | |
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Just thought I'd start a new thread dedicated to crater - to - heatshield fun We SHOULD see Oppy out of it's hole in the next 12 hours or so! doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 12 2004, 05:22 PM | |
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Whilst the spherical distortion on this exagerates things a little - this image does show the slope that Spirit has been traversing along - quite suprising really! Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 12 2004, 04:31 PM | |
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I think spirit drove last weekend at some point They can plan a drive for a sunday - but not for a sat - because you cant schedule IDD or remote work after a drive without knowing where you are Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 12 2004, 03:28 PM | |
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Well - UHF passes are typically 4pm local - and it's almost 9 local now - so it'll be 22:00 GMT before the pass - probably midnight before we see the results on the exploratorium Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 11 2004, 04:59 PM | |
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It's also used for atmospheric opacity measurements as well See here.. http://anserver1.eprsl.wustl.edu/anteam/mera/mera.htm They can also gauge distance travelled etc using innertial navigation - that's the way they generate the little blue squiggly line that you see on some of the SAP screenshots showing driven distance. ALSO... And local features ( there are quite a few on the way south - eagle-like craters, fram like craters etc etc ) Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 11 2004, 01:32 PM | |
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QUOTE (Decepticon @ Dec 11 2004, 12:56 PM) I can't wait to see the Heat sheild! I wonder if the sheild went threw the same DeDusting the rover went threw??? Does anyone know a rough distance to the sheild? It's about 150 metres away Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 11 2004, 01:32 PM | |
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| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #2626 · Replies: 33 · Views: 28476 |
| Posted on: Dec 11 2004, 09:26 AM | |
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I think they should brush and rat the BACK of it - which slice across some layers - not the top of it which just slices down thru them. Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 10 2004, 02:18 PM | |
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Maybe? |
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| Posted on: Dec 10 2004, 11:56 AM | |
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http://imaginemars.jpl.nasa.gov/about/webcast_20041209.html I know it was aimed for kids - but it's actually really good! Doug (PS - I'm not the doug who asks about Airbags |
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| Posted on: Dec 10 2004, 11:23 AM | |
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Spirit's brushed the rock it stopped near yestersol Looks a HELL of a lot like adirondak to me! - compare the MI image of the Adirondak brushing 11 months ago... With the brushing of this rock... YEah yeah - ok - they're TOTALLY different - but I'm not a geologist - makes an interesting comparison however. I assume this will be the weekend stop-over. Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 9 2004, 08:42 AM | |
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Like I've said - I want to build a Pancam mosaic of the Heatshield and impact hole for my Birthday. They've got till Dec 23rd I assume the comms restrictions are DSN based with Cassini doing the T-b flypast - and/or the ironic status that the highly beneficial power-augmenting tilt actually is a nightmare for UHF passes. Sol 315 will be a sunday though - they dont 'do' sundays Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 8 2004, 09:25 PM | |
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I'm not saying this because I want a piece of the action...BUT... Might there not be scope for a select few people - in the mould of the Solar System Ambassador program - to be contracted (i.e. sign an NDA of sorts ) to the program - for free - to read the daily misison manager documentation, access the genuine raw data as used within SAP etc - and from that - develop a daily news report saying what the rover did, what it saw, and what it intends to do tomorrow. Such a system is probably to legally complex and it is too late in the day to do it for MER now I'd imagine - but for Phoenix and for MSL - I'm sure there's an argument to have the kean members of the public doing the donkey work of spreading the news regarding a mission. Hell - I'd empty my savings and fly to JPL and do it myself - if I didnt have a mortgage to pay here in the UK Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 8 2004, 07:50 PM | |
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...ountain_crash_4 Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 8 2004, 12:44 PM | |
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The drive from site 98 to site 99 was not very far at all. One rock I spotted in both end-of-drive L7.R1 mosaics came out of the parallax calulator like this.. Site 98 object distance: 15.2 m, one-pixel error: 0.108 m object dimension: 43.0 cm Site 99 object distance: 4.296 m, one-pixel error: 0.009 m object dimension: 42.5 cm I used the large rock in this view for Site 99 http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...00P2439L7M1.JPG Site 98 http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...00P2438L7M1.JPG (it's right of centre) Thus - drive distance - to quite a high degree of accuracy - 11m Doug and thi |
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| Posted on: Dec 8 2004, 09:57 AM | |
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Again pando - a HUGE thankyou Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 7 2004, 11:23 PM | |
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QUOTE (azstrummer @ Dec 7 2004, 10:57 PM) I sent off an email to JPL asking that, if they're not going to be updating the websites (which is understandable due to reduced staff and holidays), that one of their team members occassionally visit this forum and let us know what's going on. That's just a few minute investment instead of the hours it probably takes to put new items on the web pages. Heck, we'll disseminate the info for them. Looking thru the PDS data of the first 90 sols - the sheer volume of web-enabled information they produce running these things is quite astounding. It would be nice to have this stuff released mroe quickly - the daily manager reports etc - but to be honest - I think we've got complacent. The MER missions have set a new gold standard for public accesability - the raw image distribution is a revelation in itself and we had a LOT of information for a LONG time. New stuff would be nice - but we've been spoilt as it is |
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| Posted on: Dec 7 2004, 11:22 PM | |
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LOL - yeah "Mr Ellison was arrested by the police for having over 100,000 explicit images of 'rat holes' 'trenching' 'L7 Mosaics' and 'idd work volumes' " Doug |
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| Posted on: Dec 7 2004, 09:39 PM | |
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I have the three Pathfinder IMP Cd's and the two Viking CD's as well - does anyone know if they're planning to release MER stuff similarly? Doug |
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