See the shadow cast by the crater rim into the crater What would be very cool is a navcam shot of this to see if the rover shadow shows up on the crater floor

Doug

I did consider anaglyphs - suggested by a friend who thought I should include them.

If you want glasses - http://www.rainbowsymphony.com/3danaglyph.html - I have two pairs of the pro ones - they've excellent.

The polarization method does only work with multiple projectors which have their light polarized horez in one projector and vert. in the other. Imax uses this for 3D movies most of the time. The Space Station 3D movie works fantastically as M'n'M's coming flying out at you

I like my ESA style Anaglyphs instead of the NASA style ones - and I did quite a few with the end-of-sol R1/L7 3 or 4 frame mosaics that Spirit took on the way up to Bonnevillle. I should do some of the drive to the hills as well.

Again - if and when I can convince a publisher that this is a good idea - I think the call on Anaglyphs would probably be theirs - how much would it cost to include two pairs of the cheap glasses in the back of the book etc.


Doug

Yeah - something that tells the whole story from mars to print would be in there

Anyhoo - a few months and I'll see what publishers think

Doug

Would it sell as well as the Moon equiv. - thats the big question I guess.

When I get some proper raw data to play with in August and I can try to generate some better images - then I'll contact publishers - see what they say.

Doug

Yeah - you can do what you want with NASA / JPL / Cornell imagery as long as you give them credit.

Ditto with MSSS imagery from MOC on MGS - then it's MSSS / JPL

Hee hee - clouds eh

They're actually me smudging the transition from the top of the pancam frames - to the gradient I used to fade up toward black

Doug

Someone's given me an idea.

I dont pretend to make Scientific pictures - I am out to make ones that I consider to be the most aesthetically pleasing. Some of you may have seen the book 'Full Moon' - I want to do the same for the rovers.

Do you think it would work as a book? What would you want to see in it?

I'm thinking lots of colour mosaics - some MOC images of the lander and the landing site - some maps of the route's roved to localize the images included. Perhaps even some of the more interesting Navcam images.

this isnt something I'd consider until the PDS release of all data when I could then make some top notch images without the limitations of the 'auto exposure' that they suffer at the moment.

Anyway - I'd love some comments on the idea - as I think it could really really work - and without any disrespect to any of the other people doing similar sorts of things - there's some amazingly technically accurate work out there - but I dont think anyone's made stuff as beautiful as the more recent Spirit mosaics I've done. I really think this is something I could do - and I could do very very well.

What do you think?

Doug

I'd be tempted to produce one myself - once both missions wrap up

In two volumes, obviously

In the style of Full Moon

If I were to end up with 40 or 50 views like that one - perhaps larger - 2 x 3 frames - 2 x 4, 1 x 5 that sort of thing - for each rover, do you think it woud sell?

I'd wait till the PDS release in a few months time before starting properly

doug

1600 x 1200

1280 x 960

1024 x 768

800 x 600

Available in lots of sizes - all attached below.

Yup - clouds are common on mars - Pathfinder caught lots of pictures of them

As a warm-up-act, www.msss.com showed an image looking toward the martian terminator above Meridiani with clouds showing.

They look fab

Doug

That slope they tried to drive out of Eagle Crater was probbaly less steep than that, and it got stuck first time.



Look at the slippage as it tried to drive across the slope toward the viewpoint of that image - in places you can see three tracks from the three wheels on each side - it was 'crabbing' a little.

Doug

No - I mean do the same as Spirit did at Bonneville. Opportuinty could "do a bonneville" on endurance

Of course, any day they could both do a Pathfinder and give up the ghost.

Doug

So - enough of those loonies at Pasadena. What would YOU do if you were in charge?

I'd do a Bonneville myself. I dont want to spend another 200 sols sat in the bottom of a crater - and they took two tries to get out of Eagle Crater ( which was a nice shallow crater !!) And sat in the bottom there - I doubt they could reach the interesting geology anyway.

Doug

As I see it - they have two options. Drive in and hope to leave. Suicide drive in expecting to stay - or Remote observation only.

Seing as the IDD isnt going to be able to reach the interesting stuff that's on the very steap eastern wall - I doubt they'll drive in - but that's just my opinion.

Take your pick.


Doug

bingo

I'll edit away

Doug

Well - Sol 117 is what the rawid.exe told me

In about a week, those pics might end up on the JPL site - then I'll know when they were taken I guess.

Doug

Of all the dozens of merges and stitches I've done - this is possibly my favorite. It's come out beautifully and the distant tracks winding into the distance make it, in my opinion, a stunning stunning view. Spirit has almost been a bit left out with the excitement of Bonneville - but the views that Spirit have of 'classic' martian terrain are amazing in themselves.

There are infact frames below this - but I couldnt get the colours to match in any way - so I just left them.



Doug

Yes it does