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It's got London right - 18:03 currently. |
| Forum: Private Missions · Post Preview: #143225 · Replies: 511 · Views: 310795 |
| Posted on: Jul 13 2009, 04:48 PM | |
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http://www.solarviews.com/eng/moon.htm Mean surface temperature (day) 107°C Mean surface temperature (night) -153°C Maximum surface temperature 123°C Minimum surface temperature -233°C |
| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #143223 · Replies: 117 · Views: 148847 |
| Posted on: Jul 13 2009, 04:45 PM | |
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The UK is currently GMT+1 I hate DST as well. I wish we would just stick to GMT all the time. |
| Forum: Private Missions · Post Preview: #143221 · Replies: 511 · Views: 310795 |
| Posted on: Jul 13 2009, 04:32 PM | |
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"SpaceX will provide live coverage of the Falcon 1 Flight 5/RazakSAT mission via webcast at www.SpaceX.com. The webcast will begin 20 minutes prior to launch and will include mission briefings, live feeds and launch coverage from the launch site. Post-launch, video footage and photos will be available for download on the web site" So, my evening is... ISS flyover at 22:52. SpaceX coverage from 23:40 Shuttle launch 23:51. SpaceX Falcon 1 launch at 00:00. Shuttle/ET flyover at 00:10 ISS flyover 00:27 I shall now ban myself for talking about MSF. |
| Forum: Private Missions · Post Preview: #143218 · Replies: 511 · Views: 310795 |
| Posted on: Jul 13 2009, 03:37 PM | |
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I'm sure I've read one astronaut, probably from a J class mission, comment that just from one EVA to the next, the lighting change was so significant that the place looked very very different on the ground. |
| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #143215 · Replies: 117 · Views: 148847 |
| Posted on: Jul 13 2009, 02:34 PM | |
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I stumbled across a Hadley Rille DEM a while ago - it was indeed STUNNING. |
| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #143211 · Replies: 9 · Views: 18774 |
| Posted on: Jul 13 2009, 02:34 PM | |
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You want to have the sun fairly low, so that when landing, the craters and boulders stand out well. I would suspect that you target for the beginning of the lunar day, giving you a few days until the sun gets too high. |
| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #143210 · Replies: 117 · Views: 148847 |
| Posted on: Jul 13 2009, 12:47 PM | |
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I wonder if one technique might be tank-tracking for a rotation |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #143200 · Replies: 1068 · Views: 609987 |
| Posted on: Jul 11 2009, 04:45 PM | |
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the learned lessons from MER's experience. The lessons learned from MER experience is that actually, you can get away without cleaning solar arrays.(to a certain extent) If having a vertical panel is the answer, how come we still have to clean our TVs and Monitors? We've already got threads on solar array cleaning - this isn't the place. |
| Forum: MSL · Post Preview: #143137 · Replies: 70 · Views: 79898 |
| Posted on: Jul 10 2009, 02:02 PM | |
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A bunch more random renders. One is especially for Stu and I, at 2kx2k, the resolution of OSIRIS on Rosetta. |
| Forum: Tech, General and Imagery · Post Preview: #143085 · Replies: 26 · Views: 36729 |
| Posted on: Jul 10 2009, 07:44 AM | |
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Just for fun - I've revisited my stock Mars model in 3DS Max. It needed work, and I think I've improved it. I'll post some obscure low sun low altitude renders later, but meanwhile, a 72 second animation that has two rotations of Mars - one at normal topography, one with the Topography massively exaggerated. The finished 1080 res MOV is available here : http://vimeo.com/5529718 (link at the bottom to download it) and also in You Tube's idea of 'HD' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5QlvD3bn_w |
| Forum: Tech, General and Imagery · Post Preview: #143079 · Replies: 26 · Views: 36729 |
| Posted on: Jul 10 2009, 07:27 AM | |
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One thing I will say about Carolyn - she's an excellent speaker ( Google for her talks at TED and Google ). |
| Forum: Conferences and Broadcasts · Post Preview: #143077 · Replies: 4 · Views: 4821 |
| Posted on: Jul 10 2009, 07:21 AM | |
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| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #143076 · Replies: 9 · Views: 18774 |
| Posted on: Jul 9 2009, 06:58 PM | |
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| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #143046 · Replies: 9 · Views: 18774 |
| Posted on: Jul 9 2009, 06:34 PM | |
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| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #143045 · Replies: 1068 · Views: 609987 |
| Posted on: Jul 9 2009, 02:34 PM | |
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I'm somewhat skeptical that ESA had a lot to do with the non-cancellation of Cassini but I'd need to do some research to recall the particulars. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Titans-Saturn-Lead...s/dp/1904879411 "The Titans of Saturn: Leadership and Performance Lessons from the Cassini - Huygens Mission" This covers that very issue well, and makes a compelling case for the cooperation saving the mission. |
| Forum: Past and Future · Post Preview: #143033 · Replies: 13 · Views: 17780 |
| Posted on: Jul 8 2009, 10:45 PM | |
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LROC is bolted to LRO, so, like MRO with HiRISE, to image off-nadir you have to command the spacecraft to cant over one direction or the other. I would fully expect them to be able to not only successfully target any known landing site, but to nail it pretty much dead centre. |
| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #143012 · Replies: 117 · Views: 148847 |
| Posted on: Jul 8 2009, 11:39 AM | |
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Tiny bit of LROC WA mosaic from the calib image released. It'd be interesting to see if we can pull out a bit of colour variation |
| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #142986 · Replies: 509 · Views: 554973 |
| Posted on: Jul 8 2009, 07:03 AM | |
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so that the striping effect is almost non-existent on the Zoomify images. Some images have it - some don't - as Mike explained. For those that have it - it IS in the Zoomify images, you just need to zoom in more than Zoomify can. There's no gradient between existing and non existing. It's one or the other. |
| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #142981 · Replies: 509 · Views: 554973 |
| Posted on: Jul 8 2009, 06:56 AM | |
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Well - I'm hoping they'll be at Amsat UK again in a couple of weeks so they can do an update. I'm going. |
| Forum: Private Missions · Post Preview: #142980 · Replies: 10 · Views: 17408 |
| Posted on: Jul 7 2009, 06:23 PM | |
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Zoomify does....but it only zooms to 100%. If you screen grab and zoom in more - the same effect is in there. |
| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #142956 · Replies: 509 · Views: 554973 |
| Posted on: Jul 7 2009, 07:59 AM | |
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Is it just me, or - when loading the TIF's at full res, there appears to be some sort of interlacing (vertically). i.e. one column of pixels is bright, the next dark..bright, dark etc etc. Attached zoom from http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_browse/view/nacl00000145 I guess some sort of adaptive amplification to create a pseudo enhanced dynamic range might be involved....or it might be a processing error, or it might be just something to do with the TIF's. You can sort of back it out with some VERY rudimentary Photoshopping (doesn't quite get the shadows...someone cleverer than I could do it). I'd expect proper calibration (which is, after all, the point of these early images) would eliminate it. I found a different chunt and had a go at it |
| Forum: LRO & LCROSS · Post Preview: #142935 · Replies: 509 · Views: 554973 |
| Posted on: Jul 2 2009, 07:14 PM | |
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Well - without any books infront of me, I've been looking thru the Hamtests.co.uk foundation licence tests. 64-75% scores on the 25 question quiz, which isn't too bad. A short course should see me thru that fine I think |
| Forum: Chit Chat · Post Preview: #142807 · Replies: 31 · Views: 22263 |
| Posted on: Jul 2 2009, 11:36 AM | |
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Spirit Extraction FAQ http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=6085 Please read before posting in this thread |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #142773 · Replies: 1068 · Views: 609987 |
| Posted on: Jul 2 2009, 11:34 AM | |
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Thanks to Paolo & Astro0 for contributing / editing / writing this. FAQ - GETTING SPIRIT UNSTUCK UPDATED AS AT 2300UTC - 21 JANUARY 2010 Due to the number of 'repeat' Frequently Asked Questions in the 'Spirit Getting Unstuck' thread, here is a compiled list of those FAQs. We recommend that you read them BEFORE asking something that has been answered previously. BUT FIRST - AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER BEFORE ASKING ANYTHING: "They will test what they can see, either from imaging and telemetry. They cannot simulate what they cannot see." HOW DO THEY COMPENSATE IN THE TEST BED AT JPL FOR THE .38 GRAVITY ON MARS? There are two vehicles they can use for testing: SSTB1 (Tee-Bee) a full size replica of the MER vehicles, minor some minor differences (no solar panels, some temperature probes are missing...) which of course has the same mass as MER and higher weight on Earth than MER has on Mars; and SSTB Lite, a stripped down vehicle with same wheel size, actuators and suspension system, same WEB size but major components like the IDD and others are missing. This vehicle has a weight on Earth that is similar to the weight of MER on Mars. For Purgatory and for this event they are going to use the SSTB1, not the SSTB Lite. During Purgatory testing it was found that the SSTB1 behaved more similarly to the MER vehicles, possibly because both the SSTB1 and the soil were subject to the same gravity vector. HOW DO SIMULATE THE SOIL THAT SPIRIT IS STUCK IN? As soil simulant they have settled on is 1 part of Perma-Guard food grade diatomaceous earth and 2 parts of Lincoln 60 Fire Clay (by weight). The reason they chose DE is because it is a fine powder, it does not ignite and is readily available. The feel from the pool grade DE is different from the food grade. The first is more abrasive, the second one is more chalky. There is absolutely no evidence that the material on Mars is DE of course. They really can't try to replicate the exact soil characteristics that have been measured with spectrometers and MIs but try to replicate how the vehicle behaves during the embedding event and hope it will be representative enough for testing the extrication maneuvers. They have used some of the information recevied on particle size, but ultimately the vehicle is the best instrument they have to select the soil simulant. DOES THE CONSISTENCY OF THE SOIL CHANGE WITH TEMPERATURE? COULD THEY DRIVE AT NIGHT WHEN IT IS COLD AND THE SOIL FROZEN - the temperatures on Mars are cold anyway - certainly colder at night. More data needs to be collected, but driving at night has been considered. HOW CAN THEY BE SURE THAT THE SIMULATIONS IN THE TEST BED WILL ACCURATE? They try to reduce the variables as much as they can. Although the soil under the right side is different from the soil under the left side of the rover, they have a soil compound that can reproduce the two soil mechanical behaviors depending on how the simulant is tamped down, and this can be reproduced consistently. Since the soil is all the same there is no need to keep two different soil simulants separated. The sandbox is in an air-conditioned area and the rover will be placed in the same configuration each time in the 8'x12'x2' box set at about 12 deg roll. They don't know how accurate the testbed simulation will be. One thing that can be done is to issue the same commands that were executed on Mars and compare the testbed results with the data from Mars. Moreover, what the testbed will be used for is a differential study. They just need to compare the different extrication strategies that have been through of and find out the best one. They do not need 100% accuracy, just enough fidelity to find the most efficient maneuvers and the one to avoid. WHAT POSITION DID THE ROVER START ITS EXTRICATION ATTEMPTS IN? Brief description of the rover attitude: 1) the rover is aligned more or less north-south (front of the rover north) 2) the rover is on a slope about 10-12 degrees, left side of the rover is lower than the right side 3) pitch is almost zero The soil under the left side is cohesionless, the soil under the right side seems to provide more traction. The two middle wheels are only partly embedded, the RF is on top of the surface, LF, and rear wheels are fully embedded. I HEARD THAT THE ROVER IS SITTING ON A POINTY ROCK. WHAT WILL THAT DO? There was some concern that the rover was "high-centered" which usually means that the vehicle's center of gravity is being supported on something other than the drive surfaces, so there's little or no traction. There is a rock underneath the rover which is just touching the underside of the main body. It is thought though that this rock is not fixed on solid ground and will probably move as the rover shifts. COULD THE ROCK PUNCTURE THE ROVER AND CAUSE DAMAGE? If the body of the rover was punctured, there is about 1-inch between the shell and any internal electronics/mechanisms. DOES THE SOIL CAKING ON THE WHEELS CAUSE A PROBLEM? When the wheels are caked, they don't sink. It is clean cleats that cause soil to be removed from underneath and therefore you get sinkage. Moreover, when the wheels are caked, soil from the front of the wheel gets moved under the wheel, not behind (there is not enough friction to move it up from underneath the wheel). This causes lift, raising the wheel. When the wheel raises above the hubcap, cleats start to clean and get more traction. CAN THE ROBOT ARM (IDD - Instrument Deployment Device) BE USED TO RESCUE THE ROVER BY... UPDATE - As for other techniques to consider for extrication, the rover team has examined the two options that would use the robotic arm: pushing with it and re-sculpting the terrain by the left-front wheel. The assessment of pushing with the arm reveals that only about 30 newtons of lateral force could be achieved, while a minimum of several hundreds of newtons would be needed to move the rover. Further, such a technique risks damaging the arm and preventing its use for high-priority science from a stationary rover. The other technique of re-sculpting the terrain and perhaps pushing a rock in front of or behind the left-front wheel is also assessed to be of little to no help and, again, risks the arm. There is also a large risk of accidentally pushing the rock into the open wheel and jamming. PUSHING - The IDD is about 2-3 Kg and about 1m long, the rover is about 185Kg. You do the math. The wrist/turret are much much weaker - but the Elbow can manage 20 Nm force, it can handle 40 Nm static, the Shoulder's two motors about 45 Nm. If you could brace the IDD into the ground, you could apply, say, 30 Nm at the shoulder without getting near the static limit of the elbow. You would have only about 60 N of force at the IDD attachment point though - as each part of the arm is about half a meter long. The rover, at 185kg, has a total force from gravity of about 697N. So the arm would only ever be able to take about a tenth of the weight of the rover. PULLING - Same as above. TIPPING - Changing the Centre of Gravity of the rover by extending the arm thereby shifting the weight on the wheels. See above. They are going to try the idea in the test bed though and see what happens. DIGGING - The arm has a limited degree of motion and it has no 'shovel' to use. The IDD could only push against soil (which it has done in a downward motion when analysing soil), however it does not have the strength to move soil or rocks anywhere and a more likely scenario is that you would clog the key 'science' instruments and render the IDD useless. Moving aside soil could also snag the arm on a hiddden rock and that would be even worse. USING IT TO MOVE ROCKS UNDER THE WHEELS TO GAIN TRACTION? Not impossible, but again the IDD isn't that strong. Lots of little rocks maybe, that unfortunately are not readily stacked about anywhere. USING THE IDD FOR TRACTION - The rover cannot drive while the IDD is in motion at the same time. Consider this also, if the IDD was lodged against the ground, driving over it, the wheels could get a good grip - BUT, then the IDD (the main science instrument) would be useless. DRIVING TECHNIQUES TO RESCUE THE ROVERS? PUTTING THE ROVER IN REVERSE AND DRIVING 'OUT' OF THE SAND TRAP - This has worked before at other locations when both rovers have been 'bogged', but the soil here is very different and needs further analysis. It will be tried at some point. TURNING THE WHEELS - The wheels are capable of turning, but the maximum is 60deg. They did turn them 30deg and drove forward and made some slowly diminishing progress. Turning in place was tried (clockwise) but was unsuccessful. They might try to revisit this technique. DRIVING THE ROVER FORWARD (FAST) - A car or truck is not really representative of the type of motion they have on the rover. It is mostly a sequence of quasi-static moments rather than a dynamic event. TURNING THE WHEELS SLOWLY - the wheels already turn slowly. During each command they ramp up quickly to the steady speed that is required for the motion and just prior to the end they ramp down. Just like any servo motor. But during an arc, say to the left, the left side wheels move slower than the right side, simulating a mechanical differential if you want. They typically "lock the differential" so to speak since there is one motor per wheel. They can control each wheel independently but that has to be preprogrammed. They cannot control the wheel torque dynamically though. For that they would need to sequence one command, downlink the telemetry, see the wheel current (proportional to torque) and change the parameters accordingly. That would be slow, but possible. FREE-WHEELING - No. The wheels cannot be set to free-wheel either individually or in combination. VIBRATING THE WHEELS - The gear ratio in the steering actuator makes it impossible to vibrate the wheel with any significant amplitude. TWISTING THE WHEELS LEFT AND RIGHT (scooping soil and gaining traction on a new surface) - This has already been tested. Wiggling the wheels causes the rover to sink in fast. ROCKING THE ROVER - Unfortunately, the interval between commands is one second. That limits the response time. In addition, sensors are queried every 1/8 sec. Way too slow for any real-time control of the vehicle. Some serious coding would be needed, tested on the ground, uploaded on the vehicle and verified on Mars before they would even attempt to use it. TRYING THE STUCK RIGHT-FRONT (RF) WHEEL TO SEE IF IT WILL SUDDENLY WORK - Believe it or not, that is actually already on the list of things to try, but not at the top - in fact it's so far down the list that they can't see it. In order to save mass and reduce complexity, some of the actuators (~=motors) share motor controllers (electronics), for example IDD and mobility. This means that if an attempt at applying voltage to the RF wheel results in damage the motor controller they potentially lose the use of another actuator. In addition, given the fact no-one is 100% sure about the type of fault on the RF actuator, sending power down a line that might be shorted some unknown place might ultimately send power to a device that might get damaged. What MIGHT be tried is sending a voltage that is low enough not to cause damage but high enough to verify whether the motor is OK or not. In addition, and this might be stating the obvious, one advantage of not turning the RF wheel is that it won't sink! And in the current predicament it is quite helpful. DRIVING TECHNIQUES BEING ASSESSED ON THE TEST BED ROVER AT JPL As a first step, the Rover team is testing at least 11 driving manouevers on the Test Bed Rover (also known on UMSF as TeeBee). None of these techniques have been tried on Spirit yet. They are simply assessing each technique at this stage. Manouevers they want to use include driving: 1) Straight forwards; 2) Straight backwards; 3) 'Crabwalk' - driving upslope with the wheels turned at 60 degrees to the right; 4) 'Crabwalk' - driving upslope with the wheels turned 20 degrees to the right; 5) 'Crabwalk' - driving downslope backwards with the wheels turned 60 degrees to the right; 6) 'Crabwalk' - driving backward with wheels turned 20 degrees to the right; 7) a tight forward right arc; 8) a clockwise turn in place; 9) a counterclockwise turn in place; 10) 'Crabwalk' - driving forward with wheels turned to the left; 11) driving while steering. Some of the maneuvers might be repeated. MISCELLANEOUS... COULD THEY FOLD AND UNFOLD THE WHEELS LIKE THEY DID AT THE START OF THE MISSION? No. The wheels are locked in place. Their only movement comes from the steering actuators and rotation motors in each wheel and the movement of its rocker-bogie suspension system. WHAT ARE THE TIME LIMITS FOR TAKING PICTURES WITH THE ROVER CAMERAS? 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