Your eyes are perhaps 10cm apart. The two HiRISE observations were probably taken from 100km apart (I'm guessing that figure, but you get the idea) Hence, even if you do the maths for say, the Human eye looking at this terrain from 100ft high, the two HiRISE obs are like UBER stereo vision

Doug

Phil - I think the tracks on your 805- site is actually just where it backed up a bit ON sol 1009 before driving forward a little to the end of 1009 position.

Doug

Well - if you cast your mind back to leaving Endurance...we crossed some 8-odd month old tracks and MI'd both the old and the new and the difference was very obvious.

The new tracks had all the berries squished into the soil - the old tracks, the soil had begun to be blown away and re-revealed the berries again.

Further south where it was all dunes and few berries, I think it's simply a matter of wind erroding away the impression of wheel tracks - and a very obvious indication of that was soon after the egress out of purgatory - one could see a streak left behind by wind blowing past a wheel loaded with white deposites.

Doug

I was thinking "and listen to music on their HiFi.." but then I realised that HiPod sounds better

Doug

I thought that - but then why would engineering activity affect the release of previously taken science data. The last one owas May 11th, so the next should have been Nov 11th really. And CTX/MARCI data taking again, shouldn't really have got in the way of this new release either as the processing and release of thata up until conjunction would have been funded with the previous extension.

I don't mind it being late - but it's frustrating to see the PDS Imaging node report one date, then push it, then push it again, then we sail right past it without the data. I would rather they stuffed the release date out to mid Decmeber and release it when they say they will.

Doug

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Doug

The tracks are barely visible most of the time anyway - and while I do see your point..the point of a route map is exactly that - to overlay over the tracks.

Doug

Probably the best way to get a big picture of what MER has done is watch one of Steve's lectures....the latest was the one at the OU a few weeks ago...

http://stadium.open.ac.uk/stadia/preview.p...;whichevent=914

Doug

Ahh - great work i3k - is that based on the bundle adjusted data from the workbook?

Doug

I would imagine for the purposes of maintaining server sanity, there's something in place to limit downloading by things like Wget etc.... you may notice that a lot of the large images are a PHP link not a direct file link.

Doug

With what...and why?

Doug

I did something similar with Phil's great Endurance map a few months back - animating in 3ds max.

I'll revisit with this new image I think

Doug

I did a total sytem reinstall last night and I installed just this today: http://www.gdal.org/dl/fwtools/FWTools110.exe and it works fine .

If it's not working for you - I don't really know what to suggest.

Doug

The backshell confused me as well. I've spoken to Rob Manning about it..his thoughts are basically that :

The MERB backshell was likely more vertically aligned, so it got a higher ride after bridle cut. The RAD's also probably had more time left after bridle cut - so it may have landed on its side. Perhaps the MERB chute didn't have a chance to reinflate and so the backshell hit hard.

My speculative story.....after bridle cut the backshell heads back up fairly fast, trailing the chute uninflated - after a long arc without a chute reinflation it impacts hard on one edge, breaks, and ends up sat canted over with the chute to one side. What will be interesting is to comapre to both MERA and MPF at some point. If the chutes on either of those reinflated then one might expect the backshell to be sat 'upright' and fairly intact.

Doug

Several infact. $800m will build, launch and upgrade groundstations for three TDRS sat's which can each do 400 (or even 800) Mbps from GEO - $250m..ish..each. You'd drop some of the bandwidth - but a TDRS asset plased at some sort of L2 point would probably make most of the problem go away, for something like $400m including launch and augmentation of the bus for a greater fuel load and a larger LV to get it off the ground.

In the new mould of COTS etc...I would personally have thought that this is something that could be just handed to one of the big Sat manufacturers with a big cheque and told "make it so"

Doug

To be honest, if they're going to show the small items - they have to blow them up so that what might be only 10 x 10 pixels is more of a big central chunk of an image suitable for normal browsing without zooming in by the user.

They couldn't possibly please everyone - but they're doing the closest thing - giving everyone access to the whole damn thing

Doug

If you have a bit of 'faith' you can identify the top of the PCMA.

Doug

Ahh - I had that same problem borek - did you actually let it install fully....I was getting that, then when i closed everything else that I was running - there was a further install that had to happen that I did not see and did not have an entry on my taskbar. Once I'd finished that - it opened them up no problem at all.

Doug

I know the 4 x 4km square of Gusev around which Spirit has roved better than a 4 x 4km square centred on my house.

Doug

Actually - we're talking about things way way outside the remit of UMSF - so the subject is closed.

Doug

Yes - get one of these - http://openev.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download and try again.

Doug

I can't tell if I got them the right way around, I can't identify one spec to co-register for a great image - I'm not sure I've done it right at all...

but it looks cool.

In the meantime - get OpenEV
http://openev.sourceforge.net/

Suggested by Trent Hare via Emily - and I must admit - it makes viewing HiRISE images feasable on this machine (1.7G Centrino with 2Gig of Ram)....whereas before it was virtually impossible.

Doug

Stretch the hell out of it and you can eve see some of the tracking within eagle including the failed egress attemtpt at about 2 O'clock. Also - tracks visible toward and away from Fram - and around the Endurance rim...and the major slippage events near the rocks on the southern side inside Endurance are quite visible.

That there is anything visible at all after some 2+yeras is amazing.

Doug

Also - remember, FR steering actuator stuck with 8 degrees of toe in....that could well cause a slight wibble (and I use the term wibble in a technical way) to driving.