Nope - that's the 25cm/pixel at native res....just not blown up 500 %

I'm going to TRY and add a few other things into the mix.

Doug

I've taken a 3ds of pathfinder, added some crappy airbags ROUGHLY based on images...and rendered again at 25cm/pixel.....Pathfinder should, imho, be VERY VERY obvious and visible, without doubt.

Doug

I thought the 'camp fire' gathering of 8 Sojourners was quite cute As an experiment, the results match the HiRISE MER image reasonably well, so I'm fairly confident now that Sojourner WILL be resolved and identified.

Doug

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=3495

Had a hack at simulating as much as I can...if anyone knows of VRML models for other landers etc - let me know...with some dimensions

Doug

Right - found a MER model, a Sojourner model, and fudged a basic Beagle model and Beagle heatshield.

If anyone knows of other vehicles available in VRML that I could drop in, let me know.

I've tried to simulate the lighting from that HiRISE image of Oppy at Victoria crater and worked from there.
Doug

But nothing. Want to have this debate, have it in another thread...

You mean HiRISE images.

I would have thought the efforts would have been going into finishing up the viewing software that has been mentioned elsewhere instead of doing the rush-job on releasing images that we saw during the transition phase. However - the MGS imaging efforts have probably disruted things at HiRISE HQ, and indeed to some extent the command and reception of MRO data in general via DSN congestion.

Give them month or two to get into the flow of the primary science phase, get the viewing software sorted..THEN - you will have more images that time.

It takes 6 to 12 months for an MGS MOC image to be released (if the PDS release is done on time) .... to start moaning about HiRISE releases at this time would be a long long way from reasonable ( not to mention off topic for this thread)

Doug

.com and .co.uk will be very different.

Doug

These are earlier today - 0013 - 0016 UT Monday, and the first imho, is a HiRISE imaging command - the last two the pointing commands.

Doug

Mike's 1002B nav pan.....polarized.

Doug

I set up my 400D doing 30s exposures every 34 seconds, F3.5, ISO 800, fully wide ( 18mm*1.6 so 29mm equiv ) when I went to bed - it took 247 exposures looking east, from 0027 to 0257 before the battery packed up in the cold of the conservatory. I figure I was capturing 88% of that period of time on film...a total of 132 minutes of exposed time. They're great images...you can watch Leo slowly rising - M44 is very visible - getting stars down to 7, 7.5, maybe 8. Not the ideal pointing, but the best I could do from the conservatory given that I wanted to keep everything inside....a few banks of light cloud popped through every now and again, but overall, I'm fairly sure any Leonid that I would have noticed by eye I would have seen on 'film'.. I know I didn't 'get' the peak....but even 5 per hour would have seen me get a couple at least...

I have ONE streak on film....and it's not a Leonid.

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/doug_images/IMG_0107.jpg ( scaled to 50% )

I think the Lion had a night off, and I know Stu didn't fair much better in Kendal.

Doug

The whole domain has been dead for me today.,

Doug

Well - there's the QT movie that includes all the slides...but actual slides at full res...no.

Doug

" During the four-minute session, the orbiter delivered five commands to the rover, and the rover sent up 30 megabits of information, which the orbiter subsequently transmitted to Earth for delivery to the rover's operations team at JPL."

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mro/spotlight/20061117.html

Well - I thought that, but why would the spacecraft need ephemeris for itself or another spacecraft? That's what WE need so we can tell it what to do and when - unless it's a far more intelligent spacecraft than I thought and they're just telling it the orbital params of MGS and letting it work everything out itself.. (which I really really doubt)

Doug

What is it with the PDS/PSA and their total hatred of Zip/Rar/GZ'ing files that actuall comrpess REALLY well...

At least the small bodies node have the right attitude for this stuff.

Doug

First one was Wednesdayat 1820 UT....that I would assume to be the ONC sequence

The last four were all about 20 hours ago, early Friday morning - and include what I woudl guess to be two pointing commands, the imaging command, and one other that I don't really 'get' ( the eph_ one )

What is a bit odd is that the 321 imaging command is basically the same as the 319 one....it may be that it's just that - the command is the same...or it may be that they need another hack at taking the image with the ONC first.

Doug

They've done worse....

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...9P1214L0M1.HTML

Doug

A colour one what?

If I did a third one, it would almost certainly be colour - probably a cunk of Duck-Bay pan or something like that.

Doug

I'm SURE I did a Beagle simulation at various resolutions a while back....I'll see if I can find it. V1 and 2 have MOC images to go from so that shouldn't be too hard and not too many rocks cast a big HGA shadow that I'm sure the viking craft will cast.

Ahh - found something....not that great but...
http://www.djellison.plus.com/lander_from_orbit.jpg

The problem with B2 is that if it got to the point of deploying...it will cast almost no shadow at all.

Doug

Well - those two posters are intentionally not to be reproduced. John Callas asked if both teams could have both posters, so I sorted out very high res images so they could do that - but that's it..... I made them for the two teams (and the words in Emily's blog from yesterday are very very true and from the heart ) - and they're not going to be done for anyone else.

BUT....

I've thought about doing a third in the series that would be for everyone - and indeed I've already made a suggestions about doing it for TPS.....so lets see what happens....if all else fails....I'm sure I can hook something up via Cafe Press...but it'll be quite a few weeks before I know either way.

Doug

Hi Jay,

Unfortunately - you're talking about a period of space exploration which finished when I'm aged about 14.....so my knowledge of those particular missions is minimal...but I hope some of the more senior members can help you out!

Doug

I was fortunate enough to recieve a copy earlier in the week and it is spectacular. Just enough written word to give the sort of background I was hoping for, but enough images to make anyone go "ooooooOOoooo" I was going to write a little review for here - but Emily said exactly what I would have said over at the blog...

I just hope someone took pictures of the MiniTES team's keyboard that morning.... (you'll have to read it to find out why )

Doug

What's the rough illumination angle for near-equatorial objects? I can do some renders based on VRML or other rough and ready models - the one thing that my MERB @ HiRISE res simulation is fundamentally lacking is shadows

Doug

400D - and it's fab..... My Powershot S2IS died at a time when, as you know, I want to take quite a few photos - so I just thought "sod it" and splashed out on something that will last and will let me invest in some good lenses etc.

Doug