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djellison
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QUOTE (mcgyver @ Sep 4 2014, 12:08 PM) *
What about STL? Is it possible?


Download and install Blender ( http://www.blender.org/ )

Import OBJ

Export STL.

Done.

(Caution - you will not want to try and print an object like this on a 3D printer as-is. You will need to bifurcate it into hemispheres - such as I've done for other small bodies like Eros, Itokawa and Vesta http://nasa3d.arc.nasa.gov/search/ellison/model )
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Posted on: Sep 4 2014, 02:38 PM


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It's alive alright.
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Posted on: Aug 30 2014, 09:32 PM


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There are some great articles on that at the JPL Tech Report Server...

The Spirit anomaly story : http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/handle/2014/38849
The Mars Rover Spirit FLASH anomaly : http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/handle/2014/39361
Mars Exploration Rover Spirit Sol 18 anomaly : http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/handle/2014/40546
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QUOTE (Greenish @ Aug 27 2014, 05:04 PM) *
It is a ground problem, not a rover issue


It's a rover issue.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-292
An increasing frequency of computer resets on NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity has prompted the rover team to make plans to reformat the rover's flash memory.

The resets, including a dozen this month, interfere with the rover's planned science activities, even though recovery from each incident is completed within a day or two.
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Posted on: Aug 29 2014, 02:45 PM


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QUOTE (Actionman @ Aug 29 2014, 02:59 AM) *
It will be imperative to cross dune at some point with or with out confidence.


It is imperative to not do something that is likely to get the rover permanently stuck. Driving into areas with questionable traction without autonav & visual odometry etc is significantly more likely to result in a permanent embedding event that would bring the mission to a premature end.

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I don't see any reason to think a dune walk at night is any more dangers then at day.


Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist. It's been explained why driving in the dark would present an entirely unnecessary risk to the vehicle
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Posted on: Aug 28 2014, 11:39 PM


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QUOTE (Actionman @ Aug 28 2014, 03:54 PM) *
1035nm MastCam with starlight is good for dune driving.


MastCam can not be used for AutoNav.

MastCam will not see anything in 'starlight'

Moreover
-The MRO pass would not be long enough for an in-the-loop driving decision process.
-Earth may well not be visible during a night time MRO pass at Gale.
-The energy required to warm the mobility system to do this would be huge (if not entirely insurmountable)
-What evidence is there that 'cool' sand dunes offer more traction?
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Posted on: Aug 28 2014, 10:04 PM


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QUOTE (Actionman @ Aug 28 2014, 01:23 PM) *
You would use infrared time exposers with real time overhead data link.


The Haz and Navcam's are not IR cameras. They can not see in the dark.

https://www-robotics.jpl.nasa.gov/publicati...ne/fulltext.pdf

Their sensitivity is between 600 and 800nm. Thermal IR starts at 3,500nm

What is a 'realtime overhead data link'? Are you talking about returning data from MRO? That only happens for about a 15 minute period, twice a day, and the one-way light time is usually more than the duration of an MRO pass.

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Posted on: Aug 28 2014, 12:42 PM


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How would you conduct hazard avoidance in the dark? How much extra energy would you be spending heating the mobility system to allowable temperatures before moving?

And moreover....why might it be better at night anyway? I've attempted to drive across the sand in 40degF heat and 105degF heat....didn't change a thing.

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Posted on: Aug 27 2014, 04:15 PM


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QUOTE (lunaitesrock @ Aug 27 2014, 09:09 AM) *
I have a hard time believing that landing ellipses won't eventually cover an area the size of a football field once more gravity field and shape data is obtained from lower orbits.


I have a hard time imagining it will ever be that small. That would require us knowing the location of the orbiter to an accurate barely wider than its own solar panels, and it's distance to the comet similarly accurately, AND the gravity gradiant all the way to the surface in a free-flight that might take anything from 2 to 12 hours. There is so much uncertainty there that a football field is far far too small an area to be thinking of.


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Also, will the Active Decent System and flywheel be used to actively aim the lander.... or just maintain orientation and velocity, with targeting to the touchdown point resulting only from the orientation and velocity of Philae at the moment of release from Rosetta? If it's the latter, it will be a heck of a ring toss!


The later. The lander has no means to do course-corrections on the way down. It's only propulsion is to 'stick' it to the surface during touchdown.
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Posted on: Aug 26 2014, 10:43 PM


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QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Aug 26 2014, 03:20 PM) *
I suppose it goes without saying that marking a traditional 'landing ellipse' can't be done in narrowing down sites here, does it?


What I'm seeing in ESA's drawings is exactly that - landing ellipses. There is uncertainty in deployment velocity and gravity field ( which is being characterized as we speak )

The Huygens landing site was picked via engineering. The Philae site is being selected via a combination of engineering AND scientific goals and they will be targeting a specific location on the surface to aim for.
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Posted on: Aug 26 2014, 02:56 PM


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If you follow the links you'll get to the HiRISE team page for the observation
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_037190_1765
Where it says
This image was targeted to cover part of a small “chaos” terrain, where there are lots of steep slopes.
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Posted on: Aug 21 2014, 09:56 PM


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QUOTE (Gerald @ Aug 21 2014, 12:53 PM) *
The drill resembles more a chisel without a thread. That's not an answer to your question. But it reduces the relevance of the direction of the rotation.


Yup - there's threading -but only inside the collar mechanism that pulls dust up into the CHIMRA mechanism

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/727102m...-43_946-710.jpg
http://bestdrillingbits.com/wp-content/upl...bit_diagram.jpg

Infact - the drill doesn't really spin round like a drill at all. It's more a percussive chisel that rotates only at about 60rpm...not the hundreds and hundreds of a typical 'drill'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq9xUr4T7E8

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Posted on: Aug 20 2014, 02:23 PM


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QUOTE (Don1 @ Aug 20 2014, 12:22 AM) *
or last as long as Opportunity has


Why would wheel wear have an impact on rover longevity?
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Posted on: Aug 19 2014, 11:06 PM


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QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Aug 19 2014, 04:04 PM) *
Was Spirit not a rover anymore when it got stuck? I think it was! wink.gif


Senior management would disagree

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After six years of unprecedented exploration of the Red Planet, NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Spirit no longer will be a fully mobile robot. NASA has designated the once-roving scientific explorer a stationary science platform after efforts during the past several months to free it from a sand trap have been unsuccessful.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/news/mer20100126.html
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Posted on: Aug 14 2014, 01:39 PM


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Brownish motion is the result of impacts upon a particle by the molecules of the fluid it's suspended in (i.e. dust floating in an an atmosphere or in suspension in a liquid of some sort)

How does that apply here?

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Posted on: Aug 12 2014, 09:01 PM


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QUOTE (algorithm @ Aug 12 2014, 01:22 PM) *
If I take a photo with my D-SLR and use the Bracketing option, does the camera not create pictures of the same scene but with different exposure values, which I can combine later to create a HDR image?


That's exactly what it does - and that's what I do to start down the road of making HDR images myself. By under-exposing, for example, you get more detail out of a bright window. By over exposing, you get more detail in the shadows. Stack'em'all up and magic occurs smile.gif

There is some merit to doing it with the 12 bit imagery from the PDS - but it's going to be pretty limited with the 8 bit JPG's that are already clipping top and bottom.

But - tone mapping - the adaptive brightness/contrast control applied to a single image - that's one way to get 'more detail' out of a single image.

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Posted on: Aug 11 2014, 11:46 PM


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There are two HDR techniques. One is simply exposure fusion - compressing multiple exposures to capture detail in both highlight and shadow regions of photographs.

The other is tone mapping- this, at some given radius, adjusts the brightness/contrast/gamma etc of the image area by area such that everywhere can express more detail (i.e. brighten areas in shadow to see detail there, darken areas like skies to see detail in clouds)

I dabble in landscape photography and I'm pretty fond of what the latter, done with a little subtlety, can do.

http://dougellison.smugmug.com/Landscapes/...int/i-3hKxSfc/A
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Posted on: Aug 11 2014, 08:35 PM


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Not questioning the results - just wondering what your pipeline is that requires making faked +/-ev pictures first.
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Posted on: Aug 11 2014, 07:35 PM


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Why bother going thru that process? Just load the single image into, say, Photomatix and work with it there. You're just tone-mapping an 8-bit image - there's nothing to be gained from trying to fake different exposures.





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QUOTE (Y Bar Ranch @ Aug 11 2014, 07:16 AM) *
Actually, the neck is not near a gravitational low.


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If you could hollow out a little sphere at where the center of mass is for the comet, at that point there'd be no gravity since the mass would be pulling from all directions equally. That's somewhere near the neck.


Are these not contradictory statements?
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Posted on: Aug 9 2014, 12:08 AM


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QUOTE (Gerald @ Aug 8 2014, 03:36 PM) *
Hmm, according to the Wikipedia version, the escape velocity is estimated to 0.46 m/s, corresponding to about 0.33 m/s for a circular orbit.
So I'd say within the current uncertainty, respecting the rotation, the resulting surface gravity at the parts most distant to the center of mass is about zero.


No - the centripetal acceleration is 4 orders of magnitude less than the escape velocity.

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Posted on: Aug 8 2014, 11:10 PM


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QUOTE (SteveM @ Aug 8 2014, 03:42 PM) *
I'm not convinced by the emerging consensus that the neck is an erosional feature


It's where the bulk of activity appears to be
http://sci.esa.int/rosetta/54471-comet-act...-2-august-2014/

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If it were rotating fast enough to displace the two halves if the 'neck' were to disappear....then it would also be rotating fast enough to rip itself to shreds.

What I have in essence done is prove that the comet can exist (which is somewhat self evident)
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Posted on: Aug 8 2014, 10:17 PM


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Rotation rate is 12.7 hours. The circumference drawn by the 4km length of the comet ( a 2km radius ) is 12.6 km

So very roughly - it's doing 1km/hr or 0.28m/sec. V^2/r is thus 0.000039 m/sec^2

Surface gravity is approximated as 10^-3 m/sec^2 3 orders of magnitude higher than the centripetal acceleration due to rotation.

Thus no - they would not fly apart. They would collapse together.

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Posted on: Aug 8 2014, 12:27 AM


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QUOTE (MichaelJWP @ Aug 6 2014, 10:42 PM) *
They look good, Doug. Do you provide textures and are the models u-v'd or are they just for printing?


Nope - just un-textured STL's for printing.

QUOTE (jgoldader @ Aug 7 2014, 05:24 AM) *
Any chance of Gaspra?


I'll look into it - but it would be pretty low res so might not be worth the effort.
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