No - Beagle - that was the next drive.

Doug

I saw the MER model at the museum in Manchester ( UK ) a few months back and I could have ripped it to shreds Terrible accuracy.

Doug

Don't they use these sorts of obs for occultation measurements - VIMS I'd have thought would do well with it - or is there a large 'keep out' for instrument pointing around the sun.

Doug

When I saw that there was a drive from Jesse I thought "OK - it's going to be either a short drive for new IDD work, or just a beauty across that outcrop to close to Beagle..."

And then when the images came down I went "Ahhh - leadfoot it was then "

Doug

Why can it not be temporary AND gravitationally bound? Sublimiation and refreeze of various compounds etc.

Doug

Looks like a weekend stop over - FHAZ obs of the IDD today - IDD MI work tomorrow

Doug

But it has mass. It's made of stuff. Stuff can contain thermal energy.

Doug

I used the colour image as a 'colour' layer over the top of the super res image in photoshop - and then adjust the levels of the super res image to bring it down a bit...they can be a bit brash.

D

Some more SR images in the Pancam Super-Res project library...so I've found appropriate colour images to overlay the two.

these are twice the native pancam res, but half the res of the presented Super res images on the PC website - purely qualitatively, I think the improvement is about 50%...i.e. the resolving angular resolution has fallen by about a third.

Doug

Climber, send me an email with your postal address ( doug@rlproject.com ) and I'll sort you out.

I think the orig quesiton posed by this thread....is Corner crater a waste of time...has been answered....it looks like a scientific gold mine. we may find it to be the same material as Eagle, Fram and Endurance, or it may provide something different...either way it will teach us something.

Also - from a selfish perspective, I hope they hang around to do enough imaging to create a DEM as they did with Eagle and Endurance.

Doug

I disagree - you're imposing lag derived from a body at 1au through seasonal tilit over a cycle of 1 year, onto lag derived from orbital eccentricity at 30-50Au over 249 years. There's no grounds on which that is valid. I honestly can not understand why you think it is...there's no analogy between the two mechanisms nor the factors that deterime the range of values that derive from the two very different mechanisms.

Pluto will always be attempting to chase whatever would be an equilibrium temperature if it were to 'stop'

Why should Earth's behaviour have anything to do with that? It's a function of the orbital eccentricity, the thermal capacity of the planet itself, and it's ability to absorb heat. I can very very easily understand why that could result in a many year lag for a planet with such an eccentric orbit.

Doug

If I didn't have a mortgage to pay, and could look after fhe forum from inside the capsule....I'd do it in a moment.

Doug

Not surpising given that they're part of the same program, and there was some mention that paperwork had gone in directions it perhaps shouldn't have done a few years ago.

Doug

Why do you suggest it wouldn't scale to be a longer duration effect with a longer duration orbit?

Doug

Done a few hours ago

Doug

Just out of interest...I set up a spreadsheet..

All units are just random really - I set up a body with a thermal capacity which was added to at a rate that followed the inverse square of an orbit from 90 to 110 random units..but that energy was lost at a constant rate

The attached shows the 'range' to the sun in blue, and the 'temperature' of the body in pink - and it lags behind the range by quite a bit. I probably screwed up the maths somewhere, but it showed that 'thermal lag' of an object behind the seasonal temperature.

Here's one for you Phil,

Deimos has, to me at least, looked to be a much smoother almost 'softer' looking body than Phobos. Is that a symptom of the common images we see being of lower resolution, or an actual property difference between the two.

Doug

Tomorrow will be EL's last day in work before Maternity leave, so with AstroO's help I prepared a little good luck message....I emailed a slightly larger version to Emily, but here's a smaller version..

I think I speak for everyone here in wishing Emily and Darius the best of luck and a healthy happy arrival before too long!

I think, finally, we've used up every possible Space related anaolgy/pun!

Doug

I'm not sure where you got some of the prices from , but I've seen Delta II as $60m in '99 dollars.

Doug

Ah - you mean like this.

Pity the more exotic filters are down-sampled - but hey - we get what we get

Doug

That would be a blue image on the left and a methane band ( I think ) filter on the right. I did try the methane band images, but they have been 2x2 downsampled

Doug

Two stitches..

I popped into the Cubesat IRC channel after the launch failure, and a lot of the teams seemed sad, but up-beat - the point being that a Cubesat project is a success when it gets to the pad, and that orbital ops is a very nice bonus that they expect to occur, but are not gutted if it doesn't.


Doug