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djellison
Posted on: May 2 2014, 04:42 PM


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QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ May 1 2014, 11:53 PM) *
Why does this rover observe so many apparently recent, mini-mass-wastings in the loose sediments near its path?


Note - the rover can not look at loose sediments NOT near it's path. Observational bias.

If any of you are in doubt, btw, the MSL drill is powerful, it's loud, it's highly energetic. I saw an EM in action, and even from 5-10ft away, it was fingers-in-ears loud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrfM9dbd1e0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3nSHi14dUM

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Posted on: May 1 2014, 09:31 PM


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QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Apr 27 2014, 11:14 PM) *
I don't want to see mosaics that have sensor smear off the RTG this time. smile.gif


If it gets you down too much - just think of it as motion blur. wink.gif
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Posted on: May 1 2014, 06:04 PM


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Indeed - we don't really know what it is - which renders comment even more meaningless.
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Posted on: May 1 2014, 05:26 PM


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It is what it is - no point complaining and moaning about it.
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Posted on: May 1 2014, 02:54 PM


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That image received 898,002 views on the 29th alone, over 954,000 in total. Thanks Reddit. wink.gif
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Posted on: Apr 29 2014, 12:05 AM


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I used PTGui with a Stereographic-Down projection.
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Posted on: Apr 28 2014, 10:21 PM


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My go at it!
http://dougellison.smugmug.com/Landscapes/...ity/i-h8tgjCn/A

Used an old trick from processing MOC imagery - take a version of images with that vertical streak - reduce to 1 pixel height - stretch back out to full size, invert, and then use to back out that bright streak. Works pretty well.
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Posted on: Apr 28 2014, 01:39 AM


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I think it was stowed for the top tier and deployed for the couple of frames on the bottom.
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Posted on: Apr 24 2014, 01:14 AM


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I doubt it's a sun-dog/halo. Those are 22 degrees from the sun usually, and this looks to be at least one NavCam FOV (45 deg) from the sun

Simulations here http://www.atoptics.co.uk/halo/owmars.htm

More likely an internal reflection from the camera
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Posted on: Apr 22 2014, 09:30 PM


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They're not retakes - look at the motor count - they're slightly different focus points.
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Posted on: Apr 21 2014, 01:39 PM


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That's a virtually unplayable and pointless game of what-if. The majority of the MER landing site selection process was driven by engineering anyway.
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Posted on: Apr 21 2014, 04:59 AM


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As @Matt_Heverly pointed out - lovely panorama on Sol 606.
(full size here - http://dougellison.smugmug.com/Landscapes/...norama-crop.jpg )
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Posted on: Apr 19 2014, 05:30 AM


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QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Apr 18 2014, 08:33 PM) *
Pluto and Charon are already visible as pixels from NH,


They're visible as more than that in ground based observatories.

'Close' to Pluto though NH may already be, and amazing though LORRI is - for KBO searching it doesn't come close to the capabilities of larger ground based observatories for large area surveys.
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Posted on: Apr 16 2014, 03:44 AM


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QUOTE (nprev @ Apr 15 2014, 05:00 PM) *
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know what the apparent magnitude of Uranus was from Cassini in this shot? I can't see it ever getting brighter than, say, 4.5 or so even during the most favorable possible opposition.


Dimmer than Uranus as seen from the earth - approx 6.7 according to Horizons ( http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/ ) - because right now Saturn and Uranus are on opposite sides of the solar system

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Posted on: Apr 15 2014, 11:38 PM


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There's a great display that will autonomously flick between realtime telemetry driven and predicted trajectory

http://ladeestk.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/preview.cgi

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Posted on: Apr 14 2014, 02:39 PM


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QUOTE (Gerald @ Apr 14 2014, 06:02 AM) *
, greyish in the interior


As we saw at John Klein / Yellowknife Bay.
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Posted on: Apr 13 2014, 06:35 PM


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QUOTE (Nirgal @ Apr 13 2014, 10:31 AM) *
Now with images like that, I envision a kind of reverse 'atmospheric rendering engine' and infer the
scattering properties of the particles from the sun & camera position and the image pixel colors of the sky wink.gif


http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=7779

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=6248
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Posted on: Apr 11 2014, 11:34 PM


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QUOTE (ngunn @ Apr 11 2014, 01:57 PM) *
why only in one camera?


These may surprise you - but the left-right pairs of NavCams / Hazcams ( and even Pancam on MER ).... are not all oriented the same. On MER they tended to be flipped over ( one side would be upside down compared to the other ) simply because of cable routing and packaging.

With MSL - The A-Side computer Navcams are oriented the same way - but the B side are not. Looking Curiosity in 'the face' - the top two NavCam's are A side. The bottom are B Side. The black circle is bottom right on all of them, apart from the left B side Navcam which is rotated 180 degrees.





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Posted on: Apr 11 2014, 09:18 PM


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QUOTE (jmknapp @ Apr 11 2014, 12:45 PM) *
Well, we have been to Mars 11 times plus several unfortunate losses, with an impressive infrastructure currently of orbiters and two active rovers.


1976 - the landform in question was imaged.

In the 16 years before that, 23 missions were launched to Mars.

In the 38 years since, only 20 missions have been launched.

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Posted on: Apr 11 2014, 07:55 PM


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QUOTE (jmknapp @ Apr 11 2014, 12:46 PM) *
I have to agree with algorithm above:


Were that argument to hold water, we would have been back to the moon a thousand times since 1969, and the popular formation in Cydonia would be knee deep in spacecraft.
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Posted on: Apr 11 2014, 07:20 PM


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The URL for those interested
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/cassinifea...eature20140414/
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Posted on: Apr 11 2014, 03:56 AM


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QUOTE (jmknapp @ Apr 10 2014, 05:43 PM) *
It's in the same approximate area of the frame as the present two examples, and also NRB only, pointing toward a camera issue?



That's very compelling!
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Posted on: Apr 10 2014, 09:24 PM


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QUOTE (vikingmars @ Apr 10 2014, 12:25 PM) *
Like many people involved in EPO, I guess, I'm now tired seeing good Mars science diverted with "non-science" theories mad.gif


Burning a couple of weeks ( 160 m there, 160m back...that's 1/3 of a km wasted, a few $10M's worth of MSL's prime mission ) would, truly, be diverting away from science.

Moreover - such observations would not silence any conspiratorial dialogue.

We have more MastCam images due to come down of that spot - which will probably show that rock isn't the culprit, leaving us utterly with benign imaging artifact explanations. Time to move on, and get some science done.
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Posted on: Apr 10 2014, 03:34 PM


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QUOTE (ronatu @ Apr 10 2014, 06:49 AM) *
Dust diavol?


Dust Devil? We know what those look like, and it's not that.


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Posted on: Apr 9 2014, 10:02 PM


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QUOTE (testguru @ Apr 9 2014, 11:16 AM) *
should not overburden the uplink bandwidth I would think


Bandwidth is rarely a constraint on activities such as this. Time available in the rovers schedule as well as power is the limit. Consider - while the rover is doing this, it can't be driving / doing other remote sensing / using the arm etc etc. Moreover, the mast can not be pointed sunward for extended periods - there are rules that constrain the duration of sun-pointed activity to avoid damaging ChemCam's optics.

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