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The Sky Spot survery is done every single day on both rovers anyway (power, data and time allowing) It's a routine monitoring observation - so it's appearence on 2 consecutive sols is not only not-indicative of anything unusual, it's to be expected as part of normal ops. I've emailed Jim to ask if there's trouble-at-mill, hopefull I'll hear back by the end of the day. CODE 747 p2631.01 11 0 0 0 2 13 pancam_sky_spot_L234567R34567 ... 748 p2631.01 11 0 0 0 2 13 pancam_sky_spot_L234567R34567 ... 749 p2631.01 11 0 0 0 2 13 pancam_sky_spot_L234567R34567 ... 751 p2631.01 11 0 0 0 2 13 pancam_sky_spot_L234567R34567 ... 752 p2631.01 11 0 0 0 2 13 pancam_sky_spot_L234567R34567 Doug |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #41365 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350222 |
| Posted on: Feb 13 2006, 08:54 AM | |
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Feb 13 2006, 05:21 AM)  Would it be possible to use the Surveyor solar panels as laser reflectors? I think the design of a laser reflector is that specifically so that it will return the incoming laser back in the direction it came from - that is the way they are optically designed. A solar panel would just reflect back out at the angle of the incoming laser. You would have to have the solar panel at exactly the right angle to reflect the light back to the source - an almost impossible task. Doug |
| Forum: Lunar Exploration · Post Preview: #41358 · Replies: 248 · Views: 5994597 |
| Posted on: Feb 13 2006, 08:53 AM | |
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We've had, what, half a dozen, a dozen times when no images arrived on Exp or JPL in the last two years for a day or two. Only once was it an actual problem with Odyssey, the rest of the time it was just problems with the servers and the scripts that do it. I've checked the same site that shows the Relay schedules, and there's nothing out of the ordinary uplinked to Odyssey recently - and there was some obviously titled uplinks during that last safe mode problem. However - it might be an Odyssey problem, I just think a server problem is more likely. Doug |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #41357 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350222 |
| Posted on: Feb 13 2006, 08:47 AM | |
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I've stepped in to sort this out. MaxSt - you've been sent an official warning for being argumentative and abrasive - totally un-necessary and totally inappropriate not just for this thread ( whcih is for maps ) but for this forum ( which is for discussion ). Apologies for those who's posts have been deleted, but it was a pointless few posts with someone who was doing little more than looking for an argument. Back to the maps  Doug |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #41356 · Replies: 663 · Views: 767566 |
| Posted on: Feb 13 2006, 12:10 AM | |
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| Forum: Chit Chat · Post Preview: #41313 · Replies: 16 · Views: 13051 |
| Posted on: Feb 12 2006, 08:20 PM | |
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QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Feb 12 2006, 08:12 PM) I think it would not be difficult to rebuilt a series of a modernized version, using already existing components such as shuttle boosters, reservoirs or engines, together with modern electronics. That's exactly what is being planned - http://www.freemars.org/mnfan/MarsSociety/...ce/100_2889.jpg http://images.spaceref.com/news/2005/cev.28.l.jpg Doug |
| Forum: Lunar Exploration · Post Preview: #41293 · Replies: 35 · Views: 42921 |
| Posted on: Feb 12 2006, 06:37 PM | |
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QUOTE (Shaka @ Feb 12 2006, 06:23 PM) [i]I spy with my little eye something blue...[i]  Shoot...now I can't make the italics work...HEY, somebody changed the page format...What's going on here? Dam', just when I thought I had the crest of the learning curve...I'm going back to bed.... You didnt use ... CODE [I] [/I] So nothing's changed. The easier way is to hit the I button, type your italic text, then hit it again. Or, type it all, select the I text, then click I. ORrrrr go into 'My Controls' and turn on WYSIWYG editing The board has been upgraded if you check the forum update section. Doug |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #41289 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350222 |
| Posted on: Feb 12 2006, 05:51 PM | |
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QUOTE (alan @ Feb 12 2006, 05:06 PM) Minites, mossbauer, apxs may be using all the bandwidth. MB and APXS are tiny tiny data products..genuinely miniscule compared to say, a single Pancam frame. You average Pancam frame, uncompressed, is 8 Mbits once downed to 8 bit from 12 - and that comes out at about 2 Mbytes on the PDS. Full APXS spectrum on the PDS is 218kb (so perhaps 0.8 Mbits uncompressed on the rover - likely a lot less) A full TES spectrum is about 125kb (so perhaps 0.4 mbits?) The tracking page says they have 750 imagery on the ground, and given that it's only 751.5 at the moment ( and you don't get imagery from any one sol till about Sol X.7 - X.9 ) - so I think that imagery is coming down from a healthy Spirit at least. It's very very likely a problem with the scripts that put the raw imagery online - and being a weekend, I cant imagine it being a priority. Doug |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #41281 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350222 |
| Posted on: Feb 12 2006, 04:26 PM | |
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QUOTE (David @ Feb 12 2006, 04:01 PM) Why can't the US just sell its share of the ISS to the Russians or the Europeans? You make the assumption that they'd want to buy it The US still 'owes' ESA w.r.t. launching Columbus as it is. Doug |
| Forum: Exploration Strategy · Post Preview: #41275 · Replies: 65 · Views: 73163 |
| Posted on: Feb 12 2006, 11:50 AM | |
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Nothing at the JPL site either - probably something broken at JPL - I'm sure they'll fix it ASAP Doug |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #41252 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350222 |
| Posted on: Feb 12 2006, 11:08 AM | |
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QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Feb 12 2006, 01:05 AM) Now, after two years, APXS and MB are taking twice or four time longer to complete the integration when MER landed on Mars. Yes - MB is taking longer - but go and listen to or read the SDteve QnA - the APXS doesnt suffer the same problem. Doug |
| Forum: Opportunity · Post Preview: #41250 · Replies: 88 · Views: 91917 |
| Posted on: Feb 11 2006, 05:31 PM | |
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A last minute crisis, but he's on the ground safely, with the record, after a last minute diversion to Bournemouth!! Kudos to Scaled, Virgin and Steve |
| Forum: Chit Chat · Post Preview: #41163 · Replies: 11 · Views: 11384 |
| Posted on: Feb 11 2006, 05:18 PM | |
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Seconded - exxxxxxcelent (in a Mr Burns type way) Doug |
| Forum: Tech, General and Imagery · Post Preview: #41160 · Replies: 15 · Views: 15357 |
| Posted on: Feb 10 2006, 09:19 PM | |
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Here's an idea - whenever you have trouble - do a tracert and past the full contents here - and I'll collect a few and send them to the hosting company, just to check things from their end. Doug |
| Forum: Chit Chat · Post Preview: #41075 · Replies: 65 · Views: 67212 |
| Posted on: Feb 10 2006, 06:15 PM | |
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QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Feb 10 2006, 06:07 PM) Since going Grondine free a few months ago, it's not TOOooo bad actually. Some utter tripe from time to time, but still some interesting things as well. The occasional thing that I spot that I doubt I'd have seen otherwise. In terms of structure and admins etc - it's a 'strange' place though Doug |
| Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #41051 · Replies: 248 · Views: 189779 |
| Posted on: Feb 10 2006, 03:43 PM | |
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I dont believe it adds noise - but depending on Iron content, a Mossbauer Spectrum could take 3 days - perhaps even longer. The APXS is still fairly sharp - much longer half-life on its source. Doug |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #41026 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350222 |
| Posted on: Feb 10 2006, 04:25 AM | |
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Feb 9 2006, 10:15 PM) they are on the chopping block not explicitly because of the Vision for Space Exploration, but because NASA officials have lost confidence in their ability to come in on time and reasonably close to schedule. ...... They lost confidence in the management of the program and put it under review. As someone mentioned over at the HZ, pity they don't apply the same logic to Shuttle/ISS/VSE. Doug |
| Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #40972 · Replies: 248 · Views: 189779 |
| Posted on: Feb 9 2006, 10:03 AM | |
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Nooo - he's thinking 'Virtual' BBQ - we all have a BBQ - submit the photos, and fudge together a mass BBQ picture from it Doug |
| Forum: Chit Chat · Post Preview: #40831 · Replies: 299 · Views: 174526 |
| Posted on: Feb 9 2006, 10:02 AM | |
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There's going to be 180 degrees of it once it's finished. Trust me Doug |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #40830 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350222 |
| Posted on: Feb 9 2006, 09:53 AM | |
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Check the top title banner on the forum Doug (PS - if I wasnt quite so busy, then yes, I'd make them animated ) |
| Forum: Chit Chat · Post Preview: #40827 · Replies: 16 · Views: 12834 |
| Posted on: Feb 9 2006, 08:40 AM | |
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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Feb 9 2006, 06:12 AM) This looks good  CODE 748 p2271.05 72 0 0 72 2 146 pancam_Gibson_col_1_2_3_4_L257R127 748 p2272.05 36 0 0 36 2 74 pancam_Gibson_col_5_6_L257R127 Yup - it's a 180 degree mosaic (after famous Negro League baseball player Josh Gibson - according to JB) Doug |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #40818 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350222 |
| Posted on: Feb 9 2006, 08:38 AM | |
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Ahh - you see - the old mer.rlproject.com is 2 years old - but UMSf, amazingly, isn't even 1 yet (Mid March for that)All the same - we've been gassing on for two years and it's better than I could ever have imagined Thanks for you kind words - hmmmm - LAYER CAKE Doug |
| Forum: Chit Chat · Post Preview: #40817 · Replies: 16 · Views: 12834 |
| Posted on: Feb 8 2006, 06:54 PM | |
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I don't think it needs to - I think this rock is very wind-scoured, and as a result we're already looking at the 'inside' of it - a brushing would do a good job and that's about it Doug |
| Forum: Spirit · Post Preview: #40707 · Replies: 596 · Views: 350222 |
| Posted on: Feb 8 2006, 03:49 PM | |
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I'm sure it's something that was probably looked at with the latest invision board revision - but obviously, as experience has shown - I'm not a big fan of upgrades Doug |
| Forum: Chit Chat · Post Preview: #40670 · Replies: 65 · Views: 67212 |
| Posted on: Feb 8 2006, 03:39 PM | |
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QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Feb 8 2006, 03:05 PM) Working on it now a.... Who said I'm not  Doug |
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