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djellison
Posted on: Sep 26 2013, 03:33 PM


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QUOTE (tolis @ Sep 26 2013, 04:49 AM) *
I can think of (at least) two sources of uncertainty in planning this observation, clock drift and Phobos ephemeris uncertainty.


The shape of the moon itself. Where does 1st contact occur on the moon. Where does 4th occur. That will also challenge interpretation.
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Posted on: Sep 24 2013, 06:48 PM


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QUOTE (Marslauncher @ Sep 24 2013, 10:06 AM) *
So if it was indeed a 4 hour drive, assuming no stops /minimal turns the maximum distance she could have traveled would be 576m.


The rover DOES stop and turn. Autonav and Visidom mean the maximum distance per hour is typically 40m.
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Posted on: Sep 24 2013, 12:31 AM


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100 + 7,730 + 38,340 + 2,852 = 49,022

50km here we come smile.gif


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Posted on: Sep 20 2013, 03:58 PM


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There are good reasons to doubt both the ground and the MEX PFS based observations - this paper takes them to task thoroughly.
http://faculty.washington.edu/dcatling/Zah..._CH4_Doubts.pdf
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Posted on: Sep 20 2013, 03:52 PM


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Sniff. She was a good ship.
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Posted on: Sep 17 2013, 10:46 PM


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QUOTE (blake @ Sep 16 2013, 04:18 PM) *
Sol 394 MAHLI blink image. Photoshop adjusted, cropped, and downsized to fit upload limits.


The very same, as an anaglyph
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Posted on: Sep 15 2013, 03:25 PM


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Den - please re-read the first post of this thread. This was for EPSC - which is now over.
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Posted on: Sep 13 2013, 10:59 PM


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Hopefully, as Voyager 2 has more instruments to bring to bear on the situation - it should help solve some of those problems.
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Posted on: Sep 13 2013, 06:16 PM


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QUOTE (Paolo @ Sep 13 2013, 12:25 AM) *
Voyager is no longer bound to the Sun (since 1979 in fact), so it can be considered to have left the solar system


So you're saying that New Horizons left the solar system as its third stage burned out, a few hundred miles above the Earth?

I don't think anyone would agree that's a fair assessment. Speed is not location. "Where are you?" "Mach 30"
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Posted on: Sep 13 2013, 05:36 AM


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Science (as well as the BBC, CNN, infact almost everyone) makes the wrong claim ( left the solar system) rather than the claim the paper that science is publishing ACTUALLY makes ( entered interstellar space )

The two are not one and the same - very important distinction to make.

In terms of the number of objects orbiting our Sun - Voyager will be passing them by for another 300 years.
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Posted on: Sep 6 2013, 11:01 PM


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QUOTE (CryptoEngineer @ Sep 6 2013, 02:37 PM) *
1. How do the two ends find each other?


No different to radio - you need to know where you are, and where the station is. MRO has to know where the Earth is. Goldstone has to know where MRO is, for example.

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2. There are three ground sites - one in California, one in New Mexico, and one in Tenerife; how does it know where to look?


Same as radio - by programming in the appropriate information. It's a simple geometry problem.

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3. The laser operates in the near infra-red. To what extent can it deal with cloud?


I don't believe it can. Higher freq radio struggles with rain. The increase in bandwidth more than makes up for the times when you can't communicate (i.e. 10x faster, but maybe you drop 1 day in 10 is still a 9 fold increase)

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To what extent can it deal with slew? Would this mechanism be useful for Earth-orbit-to-ground communications?


No different, again, to radio - you just need slightly tighter pointing control. Spacecraft-to-Spacecraft laser has already been tested, as has orbiter to ground with Alphasat and ESA intends to use it in their version of TDRS. LRO has received data via laser into LOLA.

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Posted on: Sep 5 2013, 03:54 PM


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QUOTE (fredk @ Sep 5 2013, 08:03 AM) *
Can someone suggest what the reflecting surfaces are?


The arm, the rover chassis, the suspension, the organic blanks, the spare drill bits, the dust observing tray, the wheels.

Some, one, none, or all of the above.
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Posted on: Sep 5 2013, 01:26 PM


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It would probably damage solar panels quite badly. Moreover, you're then hung up on a rock with the arrays - you need to get 'off' that, which will cause more damage.
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Posted on: Aug 29 2013, 05:27 PM


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Nope - the data almost all comes down from MRO or Odyssey - there is very very little downlink via HGA ( it's slow, and in terms of power - expensive )

Data comes down in a prioritized order - vital engineering data first, then critical data to plan the next sol ( such as Navcam etc ) then science data.

I'd think that the SPICE update is simply a symptom of an automated script that runs at a point picked to be assumed as after downlink of the afternoons data from both MRO and Odyssey ( it can take Odyssey a while to downlink a full UHF relay session from MSL. 256kbps to Odyssey, but sometimes less than a quarter that speed from Odyssey to Earth )
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Posted on: Aug 27 2013, 05:19 AM


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Scrubbed for the day.
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Posted on: Aug 26 2013, 08:17 PM


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I know of a few people here who will be entertaining the idea that Curiosity is attempting to become member #3 of the Martian Meteoritic Society.
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Posted on: Aug 26 2013, 04:02 PM


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Oh interesting - great stuff! I thought I was going to see an animation of the depth-map that MAHLI sometimes makes. What software did you use for mesh generation?
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Posted on: Aug 24 2013, 05:03 PM


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QUOTE (Jaro_in_Montreal @ Aug 24 2013, 07:39 AM) *
Is this actually an area of interest ?


We will find out when we get there.

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Posted on: Aug 22 2013, 07:19 PM


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Any HiRISE DTM (and I assume HRSC DTM ) gets matched to the reference MOLA data. In same cases, there might only be one or two MOLA points within an entire DTM with which to do that.

The uncertainty of MOLA, the sparsity of its data compared to the HiRISE or HRSC footprint, the size of a MOLA footprint, and os on and so forth - this results in the differences between neigbouring DTMs.

It's a non-trivial task to remove those differences - one which I know some developers here on lab have tried to solve using a gradient domain solution that took several months.

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Posted on: Aug 22 2013, 06:43 PM


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QUOTE (jmknapp @ Aug 22 2013, 11:05 AM) *
... keeping in mind that there have been no stops at roadside attractions yet.


Which we know there will be several of. And software upgrades. And terrain differences. Extrapolating from the driving so far isn't really a great measure.



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Posted on: Aug 21 2013, 08:09 PM


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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Aug 21 2013, 12:13 PM) *
Thanks for the cross-eyed view, Gerald. That is still the best way for me, personally, to see 3D images properly. I know YMMV applies to that, and that most people prefer the red-blue anaglyph format. I appreciate that you toss out a good x-eye every once in a while.


Get StereoPhotoMaker. It's free and you can roll-your-own in lots of different formats.
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Posted on: Aug 21 2013, 01:43 AM


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QUOTE (0101Morpheus @ Aug 20 2013, 05:23 PM) *
Is the Kepler team still taking suggestions on what to do?


They have put out an AO for interested members of the scientific community.
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Posted on: Aug 19 2013, 06:10 PM


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With MSL - the pointing problems mainly stem from frying ChemCam with too long a sun-point.
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Posted on: Aug 19 2013, 01:20 PM


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QUOTE (jmknapp @ Aug 19 2013, 03:30 AM) *
they have stayed put for at least two sols


It's a weekend.
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Posted on: Aug 18 2013, 06:13 AM


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VIIRS isn't going to give you globe - it's a pushbroom sensor from which new texture for blue-marble like graphics could be made (and indeed have for night-side imaging) but it won't inherently give you what you're looking for. Not even slightly. This - http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegaller...ature_2159.html -for example, is a CGI rendering no more real that what you posted in the first post of this thread.

The best you are likely to find is Rosetta OSIRIS imaging from its Earth flybys - that's two 2k x 2k framing cameras that have taken some full earth views.
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