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djellison
Posted on: Aug 18 2013, 01:49 AM


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QUOTE (Gerald @ Aug 17 2013, 04:29 PM) *
Such brines may stay liquid down to -70°C.


What's its boiling point?

Taking brine as an example - that can reduce the freezing point (at 1 atmos) to -21c. However, boiling point goes up just a couple of degrees.

So - frequent weather conditions on Mars would exceed the melting point of such brines...rendering liquid water possible on the surface.....and then rapidly exceed the boiling point ( which is likely to be single digit degC at Martian air pressure ) rendering the water transient at best


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Posted on: Aug 17 2013, 11:57 PM


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It's CGI
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Posted on: Aug 17 2013, 04:55 PM


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QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:46 AM) *
like Phoenix saw


Indeed - and the next time we looked, it was gone.
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Posted on: Aug 17 2013, 04:45 PM


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QUOTE (jmknapp @ Aug 16 2013, 04:54 PM) *
the high temperatures for sols 100-120 were between 0 and 10 °C and the pressure about 8.5 mbar.


At those pressures, whilst we are above the triple point we are in the realm of a very narrow wedge for the fluid phase. The difference between melting point and boiling point at those pressures is less than 10 degrees. Indeed - those 'hotter' days are almost certainly well above the boiling point.

Hence why the occasional fluid flows seen in crater walls have been described as a boiling torrent. That's what they would look like.

For a crude playground of values...
http://www.trimen.pl/witek/calculators/wrzenie.html

As an example, you can put in the 760mm pressure and 100 degC for water then put in your own pressure.

8mm of pressure ( >10mb ) has a boiling point of only 4 degrees.

So - do we reach the melting point of ice. Yup. And almost every time we do, we probably go over the boiling point as well.
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Posted on: Aug 16 2013, 10:26 PM


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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Aug 16 2013, 08:18 AM) *
this looks like a distant Galileo encounter 2 image,


Ahh - just saw Marc's post smile.gif

Yeah - whacked out a little render of the moon to fit the job biggrin.gif

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/dis...amp;IM_ID=17749


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Posted on: Aug 15 2013, 08:56 PM


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FWIW - I'd expect that the 'dust factor' value inherently includes solar array degradation. It's simply the ratio between predicted solar power from new, clean arrays given known atmospheric opacity - and the actual power generated.
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Note - on the surface, under an atmosphere and, for half the time, in the dark - those solar arrays are not getting the same level of abuse they would be getting if they were in free space.
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Posted on: Aug 15 2013, 02:27 PM


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QUOTE (tolis @ Aug 15 2013, 07:01 AM) *
the first CCD cameras to the lunar surface (yes, it *has* been that long!).


There are lots of CCD cameras on the lunar surface. They're just part of debris fields smile.gif
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Posted on: Aug 13 2013, 06:15 PM


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QUOTE (marsophile @ Aug 13 2013, 08:21 AM) *
Is nighttime driving for Curiosity totally not feasible


Not technically impossible - but utterly impractical.

1) Need the Hazcam's to see the terrain to assess it for hazards as the drive is occurring. At night - it's dark.
2) It's cold - therefore a LOT of heating for the motors etc if you're trying to drive at night.
3) State of charge - the rover sleeps, generally, overnight, to recharge the battery. Driving would result in waking up with a low state of charge, thus leaving the rover to recharge during the next day.

Moreover - why would you want to?

The number of daylight hours is not a constraint on driving. MRO orbital mechanics (for timing of when to stop for UHF pass at end of drive) and power/data budgets are.
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Posted on: Aug 13 2013, 02:12 PM


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Commands usually go up Xband, straight to the rovers HGA, not via MRO.
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Posted on: Aug 8 2013, 08:05 PM


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QUOTE (walfy @ Aug 8 2013, 11:59 AM) *
were the two images taken nearly around the same time?


Clearly not - just look at the shadows in the imagery - Fred has give you links to it.
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Posted on: Aug 7 2013, 09:01 PM


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Really nothing enigmatic about a dust-blasted polished basalt. We've seen thousands of them over the years with various vehicles.
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Posted on: Aug 6 2013, 12:48 AM


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Yup - Bundle Adjustment is a tricky problem.
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QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Aug 1 2013, 07:37 PM) *
It's interesting that they didn't investigate this conglomerate rock on Sol-335.


I'm not sure one could consider things they don't do as interesting.

Apparent absence of observation doesn't mean absence of interest.
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Posted on: Jul 28 2013, 10:31 PM


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However - from Pluto- Charon takes up quite a lot of the sky - so Charon shine is brighter than you might at first imagine.
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Posted on: Jul 24 2013, 10:34 AM


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QUOTE (stevesliva @ Jul 23 2013, 10:14 PM) *
Given that 2005 and 2010 were the previous encounters, we can count on one in 2040 as well.


There is no basis whatsoever for such an assumption - moreover the fuel margin for 2020 is incredibly marginal, so any activity beyond that is out of the question anyway - as you would have seen if you had read page 5 of the PDF Paolo linked to.
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Posted on: Jul 15 2013, 04:58 PM


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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=origin+of+longitude+venus&l=1

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The map coordinate system used for measuring longitude on Venus is different from that used on Earth. On Earth, longitude (an imaginary line stretching from pole to pole) is measured from a starting point (the prime meridian) at Greenwich, England (near London), toward the east and toward the west with increasing values in degrees until east meets west at the 180-degree point (the dateline), which is diametrically opposed to Greenwich. On Venus, longitude is measured from 0 to 360 degrees with the prime meridian centered within a small impact crater named Ariadne, located in Sedna Planitia (see Figure 3-1). There is an arbitrary convention that determines the direction of increasing longitude on planetary bodies other than Earth: longitude shall be measured in a direction opposite to that in which the planet rotates. Because Venus rotates in a clockwise direction as viewed looking down on the north pole, longitude on Venus increases in numerical value toward the east from the planet's prime meridian.
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Posted on: Jul 15 2013, 12:51 AM


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It's assumed to be an RTG at this point, but a final decision has not been made. If you notice - the blueprint-style artwork show neither an RTG nor solar arrays.
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Posted on: Jul 12 2013, 06:37 PM


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A map large enough to show mount sharp, will be too wide to show any detail in Curiosities current drives.

This will get you located
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA17064
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Posted on: Jul 11 2013, 06:02 PM


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I wonder if either/ both will have a two-faces appearance like the moon does with it's near/far side differences. And on top of that, I wonder if there's a chance for the sort of effects in play on Iapetus.

So many questions - and the thing is....after NH....we'll have answered a few, but I bet we'll have even more.
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Posted on: Jul 11 2013, 01:55 PM


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They are tidally locked to each other - I don't imagine there would be a great deal of tidal heating as a result.
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Posted on: Jul 11 2013, 04:54 AM


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An appropriate introduction might be the documents regarding Deep Space 1 and MER Navigation at the Descanso page here...

http://descanso.jpl.nasa.gov/DPSummary/sum...orce_external=0

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In what context, specifically? What are you attempting to understand?
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Posted on: Jul 4 2013, 04:07 AM


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Source for the file? You're probably looking at a level 1 product that isn't flat/dark field processed.
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Posted on: Jun 29 2013, 11:59 PM


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That's a cosmic ray hit.
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