Titan is just gliding nirvana

Doug

The odd thing is - the 0.7something m/pixel is actually a figure mentioned if you stumble across that MOC images via the PDS imaging node instead of straight thru the MSSS site.

http://ida.wr.usgs.gov/html/regionsk/07s007.htm

http://ida.wr.usgs.gov/html/r15001/r1500169.html
http://ida.wr.usgs.gov/html/r15008/r1500822.html

Doug

Basically - I'd have thought "right - this is the outcrop - have we actually covered some vertical range here - are we looking at something different - or is it similar to before" and actually - you could take the apxs spectra from here - and match it up with the ones from the crawl down Endurance and see how deep - if any - we are.

Then - if it IS something new - give it the works - and do so again at erebus. If it isnt - I'd be inclined to make only a vostok-like flying visit to Erebus - and skirt it's NE rim with a 180deg mosaic, before heading SE.

Doug

From a dribble - it's turned into a waterfall of good questions. Lots of duplication, and lots that I wanted to ask anyway - but I'll start collating them soon into an order

To give myself time to make sure I can sort thru all this lot - the submission 'launch window' will close on August 21st

Doug

I should get out more

The whole site stats I like watching
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I'll post an image of stats to date elsewhere

Doug

Part of me hopes that its drastically different to Eagle/Endurance outcropping so that we can do some science with it ...but a little part of me hopes it's identical so we can save the RAT and make more ground to the big kahuna

Doug

The raw (not projected) images show the huge vertical exageration of CPROTO - but the projected images are at the resolution specificed in both dimensions

Doug

Time and time and time again we've seen images just not showing up for a week or more, with no real reason. Just someone not being 'in' to run the scripts, or someone forgetting, or being too busy, or a server dropping out etc etc.

We've not seen any with-holding of raw data in 3 years of cumulative surface ops - I see no reason to suspect it now.

(edit - 200+images just added to the JPL page. Sometimes I SWEAR we're being watched )

Edit 2 - if anyones wondering why there's all the L1's here
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/spirit_p567.html

It's usually for some process of collaborated study between MGS and MER for photometric calibration

Doug

I'll post any and all values I find in the documentation

Spirit
Sol 360 : 410 whrs


oh

That's the only one I could find

Just a thought - would you be prepared to share the .xls ( if that's what your using ) of the data?

Doug

I dont think you can judge a body on it's nature, only it's 'stats'

At some point - you're always going to have to make an discreet cut-off, be it size or some other parameter.

I thinn the phrase 'planet' should be reserved for anything that orbits the sun and is over X km. Anything that orbits a planet is a moon. Anything smaller than X is a minor planet.

Well - from Eagle Crater - Endurance crater was never really 'not visible'

A few frames from sol 58 or so - part of what would become the Lion King Pan

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/doug_images/O58_1.jpg 100kb

500% Philication

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/doug_images/O58_2.jpg 85kb

Taking a Navcam frame from a bit earlier


http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/doug_images/O49.jpg 50kb

500% Philication

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/doug_images/O49_2.jpg 55kb

Doug

Does anyone have any good quality recordings of the AUDIO from the spirit landing, and the moments for both rovers when they got the first imagery? I dont really need video - but if someone has it - could they rip the audio off as a reasonable MP3?

Doug

Using the raw JPG's - the best process for getting 'true' colour images is a highly technical process called "guesswork"



Doug

I'm Jake Matijevic with the Mars Exploration Project and I'll be giving the Flight Director's Report for August 5th 2005.

Today is sol 565 on Spirit.

On sol 563 Spirit completed a series of investigations on a rock target called Voltaire Outcrop up in the Columbia Hills.

It will be moving today, plan is for it to move today, to another target in the same area and continue detailed in situ investigations over the course of the next weekend.

This has been a very intensive series of investigations on this rock outcrop, which should wrap up sometime at the beginning of next week.

At that time Spirit will begin moving again toward the summit of the hill.

On the other side of the planet, Opportunity is in sol 545 and has moved on to an out crop in which it is also doing in situ investigations over this week.

During the course of the last two weeks Opportunity has slowly found more and more out crop rocks as it has moved to Erebus Crater.

In the course of the next week or so Opportunity will again move toward Erebus Crater which is about a 150 meters away from its current position.

And that's what's happening on Mars today.

(PS using the subtitled Quicktime movie - you can export the subtitiles as a txt file )

You may get more info my dredging thru all the workbook sol-by-sol documentation.

Doug

Carefull with the Lacie drives. They are cool - BUT - they also use Raid-0 a lot - the 1TB one is 4 x 250 GB drives. If one drive goes down - you loose the lot

Probably better to go with an internal option, say two 400Gb SATA drives in Raid-1, so if one dies - you're safe

Doug

I'd say the first image which shows anything that could be considered part of a dune at the bottom of the crater.

we could 'arrive' and take 6 days for a panorama

I will go for 663

Doug

I have all my MER stuff on a 250 Gb Maxtor external - then anything I'm actually 'working' on gets pinged onto a 72 Gig Western Digital Raptor - worked on, then put back on the Maxtor

Doug

Actually - the slopes of Olympus Mons are quite boring, not that steap and fairly featureless. Even the Caldera aint great - it's so huge you might not be able to see the other side

Doug

That's a cracker - Spirit has the snappier mobility with all 4 steering wheels working, but it's RAT is worn away, so it could inflict less damage.

Doug

3.3 M Lbs = 14.6 MN

Doug

I think they must have had some sort of 'Red-Filter Awareness' campaign once they left the Jupiter region - nothing..arhghgh

For instance, look at this..
N1357035094_1.IMG
N1357035048_1.IMG

And they made THIS
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA02879

???

Doug

2,650,000 lbs = http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=2650000lb...:en-US:official

11 787 787.3 newtons

or 11.7 MN

Doug

It's not fair to add the 1G on. I'm sat on a chair, and I dont really feel any acceleration going on, do you

Doug