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mcaplinger
Posted on: May 6 2015, 05:41 PM


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QUOTE (pitcapuozzo @ May 6 2015, 10:19 AM) *
Are these the images of the Mercury transit? Does anyone see Mercury anywhere?

I think the Sun was overexposed. It's hard to predict the brightness with this much airmass.

Even in the best of circumstances and with proper exposure Mercury is just about at the limit of resolution.
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Posted on: May 5 2015, 05:21 PM


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QUOTE (Arizona Dave @ May 5 2015, 10:07 AM) *
Ive been left with the conclusion that the color is difficult to really ascertain because we just dont have a human eye up there....

I don't this this is a fair conclusion. The reason you see wide variation is from two sources: first, most images one sees have been processed in ways that distort the color, but the processing is rarely described or consistent, and second, the martian sky simply varies a lot in color depending on the amount of dust, the time of day, and the relative position of the sun. Sky color on Mars is dominated by Mie scattering from suspended dust, which is a much different phenomenon than the Rayleigh scattering from gas molecules that prevails on Earth.
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I wonder sometimes if a lot of the light is IR or UV that basically just is being picked up by the camera sensors

Not really. Filter 0 on the Mastcams is very similar to the standard IR cut filter on a commercial camera. If anything, it passes a bit less blue than is typical.
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Posted on: Apr 29 2015, 06:20 AM


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QUOTE (PDP8E @ Apr 28 2015, 10:16 PM) *
But why are we taking noisy, streaky, cosmic ray strewn, and low resolutions images of star fields, that require enormous efforts to de-noise?

They take very little effort to de-noise if you have the right techniques and supporting data. And the incremental cost to take them is very low, so even if the science return is marginal (which it is, IMHO) there's no real reason not to. They aren't starving out more worthy science images to any significant degree.
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QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Apr 11 2015, 04:18 PM) *
There was no plan to ever go to the summit, originally?

Plan, no, but it's one of many options for a very extended mission. http://www.space.com/13723-nasa-rover-curi...ale-crater.html
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Posted on: Apr 9 2015, 08:11 PM


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QUOTE (Arizona Dave @ Apr 9 2015, 01:03 PM) *
Has anyone else noticed the lack of new full-res Raw images of late? Seems like they were putting up 20-40+ MAHLI and even more Pano full-res images until they hit Garden City...

What do you mean by "full-res" and "raw"? Mastcam and MAHLI have no summing modes so all images are "full-res" technically. You can't tell the difference between lossless and JPEG return with MAHLI. Returning losslessly-compressed Mastcam images seems to have tailed off, is that what you mean? There are different users of Mastcam data and some would rather take more lossy images, some fewer lossless.
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Posted on: Mar 30 2015, 04:43 AM


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This is an informative page about OREx operations. https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal...ns/o/osiris-rex
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Posted on: Mar 16 2015, 02:52 PM


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QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 16 2015, 05:23 AM) *
I'd actually be surprised if it is still in orbit. That 50-yr minimum estimate was made a long time before the dynamics of the martian atmosphere were well understood...

On the other hand periapsis was about 1600 km so it's not like it gets deep into the atmosphere.

There might be some insight in http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1974CeMec...9..395B but I haven't read it yet.
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QUOTE (Doug M. @ Mar 15 2015, 11:44 AM) *
Does anyone know anything more? Also, would it be theoretically possible to image Mariner 9 (assuming we knew where it was) using any of the other orbiters?

http://starbrite.jpl.nasa.gov/pds/viewMiss..._NAME=MARINER71

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On October 27, 1972, telemetry data indicated that the spacecraft was no longer capable of holding the fixed attitude and, as the last battery power was being used, a final command was sent to stop transmitting. The slowly tumbling Mariner 9 will remain in orbit for a minimum of 50 years before it enters the atmosphere of Mars, disintegrates, and falls to the surface.


Since we don't have good tracking data from the end of mission and even if we did there are enough random factors in orbit lifetime, any prediction would be meaningless.

Since we don't know where it is, it's not really interesting to think about imaging it, though I'm sure it's "theoretically possible."
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Posted on: Mar 12 2015, 06:00 AM


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MGS was lost to operator error. Hopefully that lesson's been learned, but it's always a possibility.
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QUOTE (Doug M. @ Mar 11 2015, 12:41 PM) *
Mcaplinger, you note that Odyssey's THEMIS was basically a repackaged MARCI -- I did not know that! Is it relevant that THEMIS is looking at different wavelengths? -- but the rest of its package, MARIE and the gamma ray spectrometer, appear unique to MODY.

I didn't say that, I said that the THEMIS Visible Subsystem was a repackaged MARCI. There are lots of good references on this; see http://www.msss.com/all_projects/mars-odyssey-themis.php or http://themis.asu.edu/ or read Christensen et al, The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) for the Mars 2001 Odyssey Mission, Space Science Reviews, 110, 85-130, 2004.

The GRS is a rebuild of the same instrument on Mars Observer. Boynton et al, Science applications of the Mars Observer gamma ray spectrometer, Journal of Geophysical Research (ISSN 0148-0227), vol. 97, no. E5, May 25, 1992, p. 7681-7698.
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QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 11 2015, 10:45 AM) *
...and the last 2 of the instruments 'lost' with Mars Observer didn't get to really do their job until MRO as their first re-flights on MCO were a loss as well ( MARCI and PMIRR/MCS )

Not quite, MARCI was a new design for MCO but its first successful mission was on MRO (although THEMIS VIS on Ody is basically a repackaged MARCI with a MARDI frame buffer.)
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QUOTE (Doug M. @ Mar 11 2015, 12:06 AM) *
I have the impression that Odyssey was part of a "family" that included MGS and Mars Climate, with MRO representing the next generation beyond.

MGS was primarily built with Mars Observer spares mounted on a new composite structure and propulsion and power systems.

Odyssey is mostly identical to MCO.

MRO is a larger evolution of the same basic design. All of these spacecraft were designed and built by the same group at Lockheed-Martin.

As always, history is more complicated than can be easily captured in a short post.
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Posted on: Mar 10 2015, 10:36 PM


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QUOTE (Doug M. @ Mar 10 2015, 02:34 PM) *
20 years of nothing much...

I think that despite its failure you might at least mention Mars Observer.
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My understanding is that only the portions of the vehicle that actually touch the sample have to be IVb. http://nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov/displayDir.cfm...e_name=Chapter5

I think speculating about how Mars2020 will interpret these requirements and implement them at this point is unproductive.
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QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 26 2015, 10:58 AM) *
MastCam may see more infrared than MAHLI...

I'd have said Mastcam sees less blue than MAHLI (the cuton of Mastcam filter 0 is about 420 nm, whereas MAHLI is more like 400-405 nm.)
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QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 25 2015, 06:34 AM) *
For de-bayering consistent in color with the compressed images you need to apply the correct de-bayering 5x5 matrices as implemented in the camera firmware.

I don't think what interpolation kernel you use has much to do with the color, but the 5x5 preserves the image sharpness a little better. Of course once through the additional JPEG compression there's no telling what may have happened to the Bayer data; if it were up to me I would never present the data in this format.

Paul's images look perfectly respectable to me, perhaps a little off in color.

BTW, I'm surprised that lossless compression is being used as much as it is -- I'd have thought that taking more images with JPEG would be preferred, although we may be returning many images in both JPEG and lossless.
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QUOTE (Steve G @ Feb 20 2015, 06:27 AM) *
Is the JWST going to be used for any Solar System observations?

Google yields http://jwst.nasa.gov/faq_solarsystem.html
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QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 16 2015, 12:10 PM) *
There should be ways to teach a computer how to combine these ingredients into a nice map.

I was pretty happy with the merged MOC/MOLA map that went into the 2001 National Geographic map of Mars: http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/pro...nation-mars-map

The airbrush maps were works of art but I question if they were objectively better than a modern topography/albedo digital product.
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QUOTE (flug @ Feb 1 2015, 11:21 AM) *
not actual 1st-hand data from Philae's instruments that directly measured Philae's position and altitude above the ground during its flight.

Are there in fact any such instruments? Other than camera-based photogrammetry I couldn't find any evidence that such instrumentation existed in the Philae fact sheets. I don't think the sounding instruments can be used for altimetry.
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QUOTE (Lightning @ Jan 31 2015, 03:30 PM) *
I had in mind there would maybe be some announcement about the selection (or not) of some missions by NASA for further studies, before LPSC.

Like what? Proposals for the current Discovery AO aren't due until 2/15 and the selection probably won't happen for ~3 months after that. AFAIK, the only AO selection pending is for the Europa instrument investigation, which isn't for a funded flight program at this point.
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QUOTE (Yadgar @ Jan 27 2015, 02:03 PM) *
Obviously, the underlying basic unit is metres rather than kilometres...

Like it says in the header: "DTM: Height [m] equals DN."
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Most likely a byte-ordering problem. PDS files are usually in network order. I'd take Bjorn's advice and not reinvent the wheel.
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QUOTE (Yadgar @ Jan 20 2015, 08:54 PM) *
...4 bytes per sample, which would be either standard-precision float or int...
Obviously, the sample values range from -21527 to 19005 metres relative to the rotation ellipsoid - which means that they are in fact integer!

Nope. It says SAMPLE_TYPE = IEEE_REAL, that's a single-precision float.
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QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 16 2015, 09:00 AM) *
turns out a MOC image in '04 was right over that spot...

Is there any MOC coverage of this spot before the Beagle 2 landing? If it's close to the center of the ellipse I'd think there would be, and it would be useful to prove that the features are new.
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QUOTE (TheAnt @ Jan 10 2015, 04:18 AM) *
...a reason to have a second thought on what instruments should be included on the 2020 rover mission...

The instruments for 2020 have already been selected. It would take something much more definitive than this to change that now.
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