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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 31 2007, 12:26 AM


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QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 30 2007, 08:55 PM) *
Got a desktop PC that's been sat on the floor for > a month? Go and look at it's PSU exhaust fan. FILTHY.

OK, I looked and yes, it is filthy, but then it has been running 24/7 for almost 12 months*. If you find your fans are filthy with dust after only a month, you may want to acquaint yourself with Mr. Hoover or Mrs. Dyson a little more often. wink.gif


* Its annual shutdown for dust clean-out is scheduled for the first Monday every September. This year, that falls on Sept. 3 - my birthday. What fun I will have. blink.gif
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 30 2007, 03:57 PM


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Anyone have any information/speculation on when such a balloon might fly?

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=1448
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 28 2007, 08:46 PM


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Great video; thanks for the heads-up! Trust Carolyn to get excited about heated toilet seats... smile.gif
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 21 2007, 01:16 PM


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Here's a news snippet I wasn't aware of:

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In a little-known footnote to space history, Voyager 1's Titan booster shut down prematurely after liftoff. The powerful Centaur upper stage was barely able to compensate, reaching escape velocity 3.4 seconds before running out of fuel. Luckily, Voyager 1 would still reach Jupiter and Saturn as planned.

However, had the underachieving Titan been used instead for Voyager 2, whose trajectory hinged on getting maximum performance from its booster, its eventual encounters with Uranus (in 1986) and Neptune (in 1989) would have been lost. By pure chance, Voyager 2 got the better rocket.


Seems like the Uranus and Neptune encounters hung by a thread in more ways than one...
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 21 2007, 10:36 AM


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Looks like Oppy has been moving its her IDD:

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...W0P1159R0M1.JPG

Check out the thick dust coating. ohmy.gif Thank goodness the MI has a dust cover...
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 18 2007, 06:43 PM


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I've always thought of both of them as girls, with Spirit as a gloomy goth girl, dresses in black and writes dark poetry, while OpportunityGrrl is way too cute and happy. That perception may have something to do with reading their early blogs:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/spiritrover
http://www.livejournal.com/users/opportunitygrrl

I need this dust storm to be so over. wacko.gif
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 17 2007, 02:45 AM


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New observations suggests dark matter in hot water gas:

http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2007/a520/
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 16 2007, 02:17 AM


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Wonderful discovery! smile.gif It's nice to see the Galex mission finally getting some decent media coverage for a change. It's also gratifying to see a spacecraft that doesn't use solid-state detectors bringing home the scientific bacon (microchannel plates, baby!).
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 12 2007, 02:24 PM


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QUOTE (Aussie @ Aug 12 2007, 03:52 AM) *
Out of interest, given the thin atmosphere and consequent small dust particle size limitation, just how much dust is there aloft?

When Tau reached 3.3 early July, Steve Squyres mentioned that there was "enough dust to coat the planet to about the thickness of a human hair."
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 10 2007, 11:53 PM


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QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 10 2007, 06:13 PM) *
The point of this is obviously not a practical one - rover planners have enough on their plates already without having to put together such an elaborate scheme, which could be made moot with rtg's anyway. I just found it a compelling image, with the rover seeming like a living organism trying to survive, perhaps the way a lizard finds a good spot to bask in the sun, but must balance basking with the need to forage for food.


That's a good idea; like that. One problem is that fluid dynamics requires a fair amount of computing power. Mind you, the MER team have done amazing things with such puny processors, so who knows. I expect most missions will continue to use solar arrays, with only an occasional large mission like MSL using RTGs (5 kg of Plutonium is not exactly easy to come by wink.gif ).
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Posted on: Aug 10 2007, 11:32 PM


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Ummm, have you seen any large rocks on the plains of Meridiani? wink.gif It didn't seem to help Spirit remove dust at Low Ridge...
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 10 2007, 03:16 AM


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Latest Looking Ahead update is now available:

http://ciclops.org/view.php?id=3392

Features:

* Solar conjunction
* Stereo coverage of Tethys' Odysseus basin
* Targeted Rhea flyby focusing on its fresh impact crater
* T35 (3,302 km)
* Start of Iapetus encounter
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Del Palmer
Posted on: Aug 3 2007, 04:33 PM


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QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 3 2007, 03:14 PM) *
There are 8 of them as I understand it - 6 on the battery, 2 on the REM. They each chuck out abotu 1W of heat. They've been doing so since the day they landed - and - except for decay - will carry on doing so for some time to come. Essentially they're there making a bad situation slightly less bad than it might be. they wont keep an entirely dead rover warm enough for survival - they just shave a bit off the heating requirements.

Oh, they do more than just shave a bit off the heating requirements. It's a sobering thought to consider that without the RHUs, the rovers wouldn't even have been able to last 90 Sols due to depleted batteries.
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Posted on: Aug 3 2007, 04:24 PM


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QUOTE (akuo @ Aug 3 2007, 04:41 PM) *
Continuing your analogy, why not use the heater to bring it up to 13 degrees C if that's all you need? Which is really my question, don't they have control over the heaters except for the emergency situation triggered by the low temperature? I would think using the heaters would be more efficient in heating the WEB than eg. running the processor.

The survival heaters are thermostatically controlled - you can't bring them on until they reach the critical low, and turning them off would require Deep Sleep mode (something that's not possible during the day).
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Posted on: Aug 3 2007, 03:26 PM


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QUOTE (akuo @ Aug 3 2007, 10:42 AM) *
I'm wondering why the turning on of the emergency heaters would be so bad? Is it so that they cannot be otherwise turned on, except automatically when the low temperature limit is reached? Is there a particular reason to run other electronics instead of the heaters, which I would think would be most efficient in warming the WEB?

It all comes down to how much heat you need versus how much heat you can afford. Consider the following analogy: If your room temperature in winter is 11 C, and the minimum you can personally tolerate is 13 C, you may be able to reach 13 C by just leaving your computer and CRTs on for longer periods. Switching on a heater will bring the room up to a much more comfortable 18 C, but at a hefty cost.
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Posted on: Jul 27 2007, 05:50 PM


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QUOTE (climber @ Jul 26 2007, 09:22 PM) *
... and a complementary question, do we know if any of previous orbiters (Mars xxx, Mariner 9, V1 & V2) already hit the planet or when they'll do so ?

Estimates I've read suggest that Mariner 9 will come down in 2022, V1 and V2 orbiters in 2025, and MGS in 2046.
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Posted on: Jul 26 2007, 02:33 AM


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QUOTE (Jyril @ May 14 2007, 05:38 PM) *
According to the SpacEUROPE blog COROT's sensitivity may be just enough to detect reflected light from an extrasolar planet's surface in a similar manner Spitzer has done... but instead of infrared, it observes in the visible light.

Interesting; thanks for posting this. Spitzer has done both emission and absorption, but reflection?! I guess they must be using IRAC 3.6 microns, as the longer wavelength bands will be swamped by intrinsic emission from the planet. Oh boy, that would be quite an achievement if they can do it. I would hate to be the sucker PI reducing the data for that observation. blink.gif
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Posted on: Jul 25 2007, 01:01 AM


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After looking at the influx of water in my garden I watched the movie Titanic and felt much better... wink.gif
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Posted on: Jul 23 2007, 01:29 AM


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All of the above and I'd like to add observations of the heat shield, along with Heat Shield Rock*, the first meteorite observed up-close on Mars - way cool! smile.gif

* "This is a huge surprise, though maybe it shouldn't have been. I never thought we would get to use our instruments on a rock from someplace other than Mars." - Steve Squyres
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Posted on: Jul 21 2007, 05:49 PM


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QUOTE (climber @ Jul 21 2007, 05:52 PM) *
I'm sure they ordered Oppy not to communicate this week-end so SS can read his own copy. biggrin.gif or sad.gif

Well, even if Oppy did communicate this weekend, there would be little in the downlink that would interest SS (beyond knowing Oppy's status) since science ops have been suspended for a while. biggrin.gif or sad.gif? I'd have to say sad.gif. What's even sad.gif is that I had to do a web search to find out what this Harry Potter thing was all about. blink.gif
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Posted on: Jul 20 2007, 08:07 PM


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THEMIS dust maps:
http://themis.asu.edu/dustmaps/
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Posted on: Jul 20 2007, 06:08 PM


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QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 20 2007, 04:00 PM) *
I just think it would be a waste to completely throw away the advantages of solar power. The MER proves the application of the technology. I just want a brush so that we don't have to wait for the wind to blow.

Solar power will continue to be used by missions that cannot afford the price of RTG goodness. Certainly, no NASA Mars Scout mission can afford an RTG.

Brushes are so 20th Century, how about an electrodynamic dust shield instead? smile.gif
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19apr_dustbuster.htm
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Posted on: Jul 19 2007, 02:37 AM


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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jul 18 2007, 10:38 PM) *
Ah, I'm glad sombody knows this. I've only ever been able to find reference that all *loads* are removed from the battery. As clearly something of the solar array power gets to the BCB* (as it is this power that tells the BCB to reconnect the battery in the morning) I was never sure if the battery could be charged while in deep sleep.

You're thinking of the BCB during normal operation. Just to clarify: the BCB is also off during Deep Sleep (only the master clock/timer are running), hence no recharging can take place - a circuit that measures the reference cells tells the BCB to power-up - this is where the 0.2 amps solar array wake-up value comes from.
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QUOTE (helvick @ Jul 18 2007, 11:19 PM) *
Edited to add: Just noticed Doug's comment re the heater. Doh!, I'd forgotten that and it is quite likely that the temperature is high enough around the middle of the day to keep it off so that's a relief.
Also with reference to James Canvins comment regarding the wakeup current - I thought that wake up current was 2.0 amps which would keep it asleep until quite late in the day. I don't know what the panel output voltage range is but assuming it is only 10v then it would only just rise above 2A at the moment.


You're both correct! Normally, the solar array wake-up current is 2 amps for 10 minutes. However, when waking from Deep Sleep, it is set to 0.2 amps.
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QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 18 2007, 11:10 PM) *
I don't know the specifics of the PCB, but is it intelligent enough to be preprogrammed for an expected wake up array voltage of X volts (when X is a lower number right now ) - which could be estimated to be 11am - then the master sequence for the day is sleep all day, wake up for the earliest Odyssey pass at which point you both uplink for the next day and downlink for that day, and then enter deep sleep till 19 hours later.


Yes, the BCB is like the PRAM in a Mac - a self-contained programmable computer with non-volatile storage. You could change the wake-up voltage, however, it would be easier to use the master clock/timer to wake-up at a certain time instead of using solar array wake-up.
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