Phoenix over Heimdall Crater, - a signature image in space exploration |
Phoenix over Heimdall Crater, - a signature image in space exploration |
May 29 2008, 01:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 19-March 05 From: Princeton, NJ, USA Member No.: 212 |
It is an image that will make for great big-size poster art, so that it won't be marred by the close-up box in the corner, which must go away, just for the sake of beauty. I agree. This is an iconic, jaw dropping image for the ages that evokes both the poetry and humanity which Rob described in that referenced post. Personally I think the close up box is absolutely required for context: Parachute plus Crater makes the magic. the position of the box is debatable just a thought as I try to detach my jaw from the table ken |
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May 29 2008, 02:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 21-August 06 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1062 |
As to the frequent comments of looking for the heat shield, well, it should be there somewhere close, but it would be very hard to tell a tiny heat shield from the rocks at the bottom of the crater. The parachute being so bright and very much unnatural, well, helps alot... A heat shield would look alot like a rock...
I suspect that the way it will be found is by a future HiRISE image of the site, looking to see if any of the black dots in the area are missing... |
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May 29 2008, 09:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
I, like others, am also of the opinion that the zoomed box is required.
The WOW factor on the image is based not only on our knowledge that those little "dots" are the parachute & lander but (and more important, imo) on the fact that (almost) all of us already saw the zoom image the day before and have that picture on our minds. But this image with the crater is not only for us here at this and similar forums, it's for the whole mankind; it should be understood by anybody else looking at the picture. Without the zoom, those little dots are just that: little dots. BTW, yesterday I submited a request to APOD and I'm pretty sure I was not alone... |
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May 29 2008, 10:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
BTW, yesterday I submited a request to APOD and I'm pretty sure I was not alone... Judging by this line on the APOD site: "Tomorrow's picture: dramatic oblique", I think we know what's coming up tomorrow! -------------------- |
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May 29 2008, 02:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
About the zoom box, I almost feel guilty nitpicking this image, but my only criticism is that the diagonal lines don't connect corresponding corners...
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May 29 2008, 03:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 345 Joined: 2-May 05 Member No.: 372 |
I noticed that too, fredk.
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May 29 2008, 03:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1619 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Bergerac - FR Member No.: 678 |
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May 29 2008, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Beautiful, Ant! And I see you've got the small box more accurately indicating the zoomed area, too.
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May 29 2008, 03:50 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Looks a bit pumpkin-orange to me -- I'd prefer more muted colors.
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May 29 2008, 04:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1619 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Bergerac - FR Member No.: 678 |
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May 29 2008, 04:32 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 27-October 06 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 1292 |
We have made higher resolution versions available of the crater and the contrast enhanced spacecraft (look for "unannotated" near the bottom of the page).
I've put together a new version of the descent image with inset using the higher-resolution versions. It is 4096x2038 and 5.1 MB. |
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May 29 2008, 04:37 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Awesome, GuyMac, thanks. I assume the answer to this question is "no" but I'll ask anyway: was any color data taken at the time that this photo was shot?
EDIT: Just saw this at the bottom of the page Guy linked to: "HiRISE is currently producing its standard product images for this observation, but it is unlikely that a color version will be available, since the above image is not within the camera’s color swath." --Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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May 29 2008, 04:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
I've put together a new version of the descent image with inset using the higher-resolution versions. It is 4096x2038 and 5.1 MB. Sweet! I presume that's the version up on the HiWall now? -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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May 29 2008, 04:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
I was thinking the same thing about the color in the Heimdall image. I'm guessing not. If we could encourage someone to arrange for a color image from either HIRISE or other device at a similar angle at a time in the near future, it wouldn't be difficult to drop in the color behind the original.
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May 29 2008, 04:59 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 27-October 06 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 1292 |
Awesome, GuyMac, thanks. I assume the answer to this question is "no" but I'll ask anyway: was any color data taken at the time that this photo was shot? EDIT: Just saw this at the bottom of the page Guy linked to: "HiRISE is currently producing its standard product images for this observation, but it is unlikely that a color version will be available, since the above image is not within the camera’s color swath." --Emily Right, we may be able to get the center of the crater in color, but it failed the automatic color co-registration, probably because the CCD offset and overlap corrections don't match anything we've done before. |
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