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Sol 3 and onwards - imaging
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post May 31 2008, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (Cargo Cult @ May 31 2008, 07:42 PM) *
It doesn't even look like much of a hack - he's managed to add (or modify) a news item, but that's it. No new files uploaded or anything - sounds like he's only managed to access the database. Not exactly 'owning' the server...

'Vital', you're rubbish!

And annoying. Especially as there could be loads of new, interesting raw images appearing around now. Sigh...

FWIW I should have gotten a screen capture of it..when attack was finally over the home page was replaced with a web page with a black background and a small turkish flag at the top of the page.
a quote saying something like "Nasa got pwned" and a few other words... and a hotmail address...
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post Jun 1 2008, 10:35 AM
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Quick look...

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post Jun 1 2008, 03:25 PM
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I don't know if I have missed the central section of this mosaic, I'm still trying to get my head around the Phoenix data. If anyone can find it let me know.

Also as I mentioned in the SSI reference thread, there is a inconsistent offset between the pointing of the filters in some images so the full resolution image is a little hard on the eye in places. blink.gif Fixing this in my processing software will take some work.



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post Jun 1 2008, 08:01 PM
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I don't think anything was missed, there are a lot of gaps.

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You can really see how much of this area has been disturbed by the thrusters. Some of the rocks have been rolled and can clearly see the marks they left.
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post Jun 1 2008, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ May 31 2008, 03:13 AM) *
I think this is more work-volume imagery


Is it possible these (in my red circle) cracked apart from what had been one (ice)rock? The body countours leading to the clean 'fracture' surfaces appear to match well. Could the combination of the rocket's temperature and thrust have both moved the rock, and then also cracked it apart? That group certainly looks curious. It's as if they moved, then popped, then landed, then got some more debris washed up against the bottom edges while the new surfaces somehow remained pristine.

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post Jun 1 2008, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jun 1 2008, 04:25 PM) *
Also as I mentioned in the SSI reference thread, there is a inconsistent offset between the pointing of the filters in some images so the full resolution image is a little hard on the eye in places. blink.gif

Sudden, unlikely idea - the lander isn't sinking, is it?

(I imagine that powdery soil covering the icy layer is sufficiently solid when packed together, so sadly I doubt Phoenix really is going to take a subterranean voyage of perhaps several centimetres...)
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post Jun 2 2008, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jun 1 2008, 03:25 PM) *
I don't know if I have missed the central section of this mosaic, I'm still trying to get my head around the Phoenix data. If anyone can find it let me know.


Hmm. I wonder if the team would appreciate a sort of "best off the web" presentation every once in a while.

Try sol 3, ActID 1163, as well as sol 5 (1170) for the left workspace. The sol 3 set was a different objective and filter set, so I'd expect to see it repeated, but a repeat is obviously not the highest priority.
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post Jun 2 2008, 12:25 AM
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From the RAC thread, but replying here since it's not RAC images.
QUOTE (James Sorenson @ May 31 2008, 10:26 PM) *
New images, is this a scoop mark in the soil?

Confirmed: http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/06_01_pr.php
Provisionally named "Yeti". Guess we aren't the only ones who think it looks like a footprint. smile.gif

before: http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_1009.jpg
after: http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_1114.jpg

Not enough filters yet to get a color "after" image, but there is both left and right.
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post Jun 2 2008, 03:47 AM
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QUOTE (curious @ Jun 1 2008, 11:36 PM) *
Is it possible these (in my red circle) cracked apart from what had been one (ice) rock? The body countours leading to the clean 'fracture' surfaces appear to match well. Could the combination of the rocket's temperature and thrust have both moved the rock, and then also cracked it apart? That group certainly looks curious.

It sure seems to be composed of something less dense and lighter than the other rocks as the decent thrusters exhaust sure moved it around a lot more than any other rock I have seen. Maybe composed of something lighter like ice? The right edge of the bigger "Rock" (far upper left in the photo you referenced) sure does look like it has recently been broken (see close up below) as seen by the soil removal patches along the top sharp right side edge which have revealed the lighter interior colour. unsure.gif

Recent broken edge?:
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post Jun 2 2008, 04:42 AM
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Quick animation of the "yeti" arm touch site. Alignment isn't perfect and the lighting is very different, but you can see some pebbles get pushed around (especially up and to the left of the print), and a large stone is completely submerged.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/r...rs/yetianim.gif
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post Jun 2 2008, 05:07 AM
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welcome, other newcomer, i agree
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post Jun 2 2008, 05:43 AM
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The outlined area appears to have been compacted. Is this just settling or did the arm make contact?
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post Jun 2 2008, 10:56 AM
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I'd love to know what the science team make of the smooth rounded "pebbles" in many of the images of the landing site.

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_1516.jpg
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post Jun 2 2008, 11:03 AM
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Hey Sunspot, here is a color version (enlarged toward solar pannel) wink.gif smile.gif



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post Jun 2 2008, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (Reed @ Jun 2 2008, 06:42 AM) *
Quick animation of the "yeti" arm touch site. Alignment isn't perfect and the lighting is very different, but you can see some pebbles get pushed around (especially up and to the left of the print), and a large stone is completely submerged.

I also noticed that a pebble (at approx 5 hours) has been pushed down or has been scratched. By any mean, it's no longer visible at the end. You can check it out also in reed's before/after post. My take : I do not feel it has been pushed down but get spread instead. Would have been much a clod that a pebble thou.


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