Sol 3 and onwards - imaging |
Sol 3 and onwards - imaging |
Jun 5 2008, 11:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 3-August 05 Member No.: 453 |
Emily and Mike, a great new resource!
I too would prefer "one page per sol" format as it takes a long time to load all the thumbnails for all the sols at once and that will get worse as time goes by; the alternative is to have a big browser cache which gets larger and larger... I'd be OK with using the filter abbreviations instead of the full names (e.g. R instead of RED etc.); easier to scan in my mind but that may just be me being so used to the MER format although where are those L4/5/6 images? Also, I think the page might be easier on the eyes with a black background and white text; especially the darker images would look better that way and avoids the visual "glare" of that bright white background. Nevertheless, almost perfect and way better than any of the alternatives out there - I find that Flash version one particularly annoying. Airbag |
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Jun 5 2008, 12:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 877 Joined: 7-March 05 From: Switzerland Member No.: 186 |
Also, I think the page might be easier on the eyes with a black background and white text; especially the darker images would look better that way and avoids the visual "glare" of that bright white background. Hmm, with a total black background there would be too little contrast to the pictures. Dark pics would nearly disappear. Any little darker background may be more welcome - however, because I have reduced my screen brightness anyway, white is ok to me. -------------------- |
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Jun 5 2008, 02:01 PM
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Director of Galilean Photography Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 93 |
Mike,
How hard would it be to add a plugin to MMB for creating automatic telltale animations? Give it a start and end date, and it searches for all images matching the telltale azimuth/altitude. (ideally rejecting images below a certain size as possibly corrupt) -------------------- Space Enthusiast Richard Hendricks
-- "The engineers, as usual, made a tremendous fuss. Again as usual, they did the job in half the time they had dismissed as being absolutely impossible." --Rescue Party, Arthur C Clarke Mother Nature is the final inspector of all quality. |
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Jun 5 2008, 02:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
How hard would it be to add a plugin to MMB for creating automatic telltale animations? Give it a start and end date, and it searches for all images matching the telltale azimuth/altitude. (ideally rejecting images below a certain size as possibly corrupt) Given the metadata, I think somebody could do that with a script. Seems like a good idea. And lucky for us, there are now several different potential sources for the metadata. |
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Jun 5 2008, 02:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
That's a fabulous site, Emily, thanks. I'd only second (or third or whatever) the one page per sol idea. Also, if time permitted, perhaps the option of sorting the images by camera, then by time for each camera, would be nice. And if you really had a bunch of spare time on your hands, applying colour coding in some way to indicate the filters/LEDs would be a treat...
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Jun 5 2008, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
A color mosaic using red and 4x4 binned green and blue data, possibly from the runout sequence after ODY safe mode:
Left mosaic edge is precisely to the north. -------------------- |
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Jun 5 2008, 04:25 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 17-February 05 Member No.: 170 |
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Jun 5 2008, 04:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 3-August 05 Member No.: 453 |
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Jun 5 2008, 05:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Thanks. I only just noticed that the stupid Fileden file hosting service reduced the size down to just 256kB when I specifically uploaded it there to keep the higher quality file. Groan.
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Jun 5 2008, 05:11 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Thanks for the comments, everyone. Background colors are easy to change because that's just a style sheet thing. I was thinking that in order to solve the problem of simultaneous activities, I would sort by camera within each sol. I can easily add color coding to table cells to indicate filter colors, again using styles. (Realize, though, that this will make the page rather garish; SSI has no clear filter, so most of the SSI images are red.) The hardest suggestion for me to implement is the sol-by-sol pages, because that quickly multiplies the number of files I need to update, reducing the level of automation, increasing the possibility of error, and decreasing the likelihood of regular updates. The challenge is the same as with MER -- Phoenix doesn't return all of its images every day, so every day's downlink contains images from multiple sols, and that means I'll need to update multiple files. What I had been planning on doing was maybe grouping them 5 sols at a time to keep the number of index pages manageable. But I can give the sol by sol pages a go and see if it's workable.
--Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Jun 5 2008, 05:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 18-December 04 Member No.: 123 |
Would it be possible for someone to perhaps give the Phoenix metadata to me?
I updated the metadata with MMB but I couldn't see it anywhere. Perhaps, a link to a download or perhaps a zip file posted here? A zip file should be tiny compared to the full file. If it's small enough I can pm my email address too. -------------------- Turn the middle side topwise....TOPWISE!!
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Jun 5 2008, 05:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Another idea (if one page per sol turns out to be not feasable) is to sort with the latest sol at the top of the page rather than the bottom, so people with slow connections could just hit "stop" on their browser once the latest sol's thumbnails have loaded.
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Jun 5 2008, 05:47 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Jared, when MMB is done with the full update, it writes the metadata to a file "metadata.csv" in the [mmbdir]/Phoenix directory.
Just for grins, here's the Excel file I used to create the page I posted last night, not yet updated with Sol 10 images. --Emily
Attached File(s)
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Jun 5 2008, 05:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
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Jun 5 2008, 06:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Phoenix doesn't return all of its images every day, so every day's downlink contains images from multiple sols, and that means I'll need to update multiple files. Another thought occurs to me. Could you just update the single main page (html file) as is, but add a separate sol index page, with links to each sol. You could have a new script run after each update to the main page, which scans through the main page looking for the sol delimiters. The script then generates a separate page (html file) for each sol that it finds, using the contents of the main page between the appropriate sol delimiters. This sounds simple in principle, but perhaps there are coding difficulties here? (My coding expertise is limited to fortran, unfortunately.) (Yes, you read right, fortran.) |
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