TEGA (Thermal Evolved Gas Analyzer), an apparent problem |
TEGA (Thermal Evolved Gas Analyzer), an apparent problem |
Jun 9 2008, 03:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 21-August 06 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1062 |
Poor TEGA... It just doesn't seem to be working quite as intended... I sure hope they can get all of the problems resolved...
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Jun 9 2008, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
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Jun 9 2008, 03:41 PM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
Yeah - it's a very very expensive, but small, barn conversion http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_99.jpg Hey did ya'll notice the salt shaker in that picture ? |
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Jun 9 2008, 03:49 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
I hope you're not saying this based on something you've heard about the second attempt to get sample into the oven. Oh surely not. I can't imagine anyone here who'd be so cruel as to drop a hint about a development they've heard about but can't share with the world yet - Oh hello Jason, didn't see you there...! -------------------- |
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Jun 9 2008, 04:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1465 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Columbus OH USA Member No.: 13 |
Is a press conference scheduled today? Seems like there's a lot of fodder for questions, given that TEGA is kind of the central instrument of this mission, such that "Poor TEGA" = "Poor Phoenix."
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Jun 9 2008, 04:14 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Yep...
Media Update NASA and the University of Arizona, Tucson, will hold a media teleconference at 11 a.m. PDT (2 p.m. EDT) on Monday, June 9, to report on the latest news from NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander mission. -------------------- |
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Jun 9 2008, 04:18 PM
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How many of the original science objectives can be met without TEGA?
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Jun 9 2008, 04:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Whoa, people... Getting a bit negative, aren't we?
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Jun 9 2008, 04:22 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
I was just thinking that... come on guys, first sample dump, first oven, first everything. That's why there are more than one on there; it was very unlikely everything would go perfectly the first time. I reckon the Phoenix team reading this need our support and encouragement now. Keep at it!
Edit: interesting article here... -------------------- |
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Jun 9 2008, 04:36 PM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
There are plenty of positive things about Phoenix of course. We have colour and 3d pics of the northern tundra. Pretty sure we see ice under the lander. Temperatures, pressures and wind direction. Microscope views of the dust/dirt. I am sure I missed a few things too.
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Jun 9 2008, 04:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2530 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 321 |
How many of the original science objectives can be met without TEGA? To head that off, I think there's just about zero chance that the soil problem will be an impasse. If the arm can dig the stuff up in the first place, it can smash it up for at least some of the TEGA ovens. Barring some OTHER problem, the clumpiness problem will be solved. Seeing that ice layer under the lander is a big win by itself. But as far as the scenery goes, the thrill ends at having another poster. The science of returning a panorama of this landscape is slim to none. This mission is all about TEGA and MECA. And with MRO up there, we can get a decent panoramic reconstruction of any spot on the planet -- only the extreme foreground needs in situ imaging. |
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Jun 9 2008, 04:53 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
I gave another Outreach talk this morning, at a tiny, village school here in Cumbria - just 30 or so kids in the whole school! - and treated them to my "Tourist's Guide To The Universe". Thanks to the already mentioned generosity of the Phoenix Outreach team I was able to give all my group of 22 kids a Phoenix sticker, which they were delighted with (as was their teacher, who somehow acquired one for herself...!). During the talk's Mars section I mentioned Phoenix, obviously, and mentioned the problem with TEGA, explaining that the dust wasn't falling through the grille. One student suggested - without any prompting, which I thought was very cool - using the robot arm scoop to pat at the dust and push some through. But another suggested a rather radical alternative:
"Why don't they scoop up one of those stones", he suggested, pointing at the rocks scattered around the lander, "and drop it onto the dust? That would shake it up, wouldn't it?" So, there you have it, Phoenix team, your solution. Obvious really! -------------------- |
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Jun 9 2008, 05:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1465 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Columbus OH USA Member No.: 13 |
QUOTE NASA and the University of Arizona, Tucson, will hold a media teleconference at 11 a.m. PDT (2 p.m. EDT) on Monday, June 9 But not a televised press conference? -------------------- |
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Jun 9 2008, 05:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Nope, but you can still listen to it: http://www.nasa.gov/news/media/newsaudio/index.html
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Jun 9 2008, 05:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1465 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Columbus OH USA Member No.: 13 |
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