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Last stops around Victoria, before the Long Trek
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post Oct 15 2008, 05:28 AM
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QUOTE (mhoward @ Oct 14 2008, 09:40 PM) *
And I guess somethings broken in the update process, as Exploratorium doesn't seem to be updating. sad.gif
Edit: new images down. I guess the pipeline is working after all.

Not completely; the hazcams are still missing and they were downlinked before the available navcams. Images from the previous site are missing too.

Edited: Today's imaging plan includes these mosaics but no driving. I guess the pancam one is for LBS imaging and once finished we'll leave Victoria for good.

01680::p1900::01::2::0::0::2::0::4::nav_2x1_deckCheck_pri61
01680::p1953::02::2::0::0::2::0::4::nav_1x1_az_180_1_bpp_LUT3_pri57
01680::p2364::19::3::0::0::3::1::7::pancam_Victory_3x1_L2

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post Oct 15 2008, 08:27 AM
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...and once finished we'll leave Victoria for good.

What about having the last look at Sofi ("Explorer") crater ?
I'd love to see a last view of Victoria across Sofi before leaving... and see up close the interface between the rims of Victoria and Sofi with some exposed layers on both sides smile.gif

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post Oct 15 2008, 09:41 AM
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In his DPS presentation yesterday, Steve suggested there would be one stop after this one - (C on the attached image) and then we're gone.



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post Oct 15 2008, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 15 2008, 03:27 AM) *
...and once finished we'll leave Victoria for good.

What about having the last look at Sofi ("Explorer") crater ?
I'd love to see a last view of Victoria across Sofi before leaving... and see up close the interface between the rims of Victoria and Sofi with some exposed layers on both sides smile.gif

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I would like to see that as well. It would be interesting to see the impact boundary between the two craters.


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post Oct 15 2008, 02:04 PM
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Would the boundary be worth it? Obviously Victoria predates Sofi, and the most recent activity appears to be the erosion and cape-and-baying of Victoria, perhaps by 100m diameter. As Sofi has not yet been cut by the advancing erosion, what benefits are likely in studying the smaller crater?

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post Oct 15 2008, 02:17 PM
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I'd like a stop by Sofi as well.

I think it would be really interesting to get a compare/contrast of Sofi vs. Victoria. Especially to see how the impact rim of Sofi is eroding out into Victoria (how fractured is it? Did the Sofi impact compression make the Victoria side erode faster or slower?).

The potential for dramatic pictures is also worthwhile. Neat angles of Sofi in the foreground with Victoria. (I thought the Sputnik crater images were pretty cool.) And you might get a nice shot of Duck Bay (could we see Oppy's tracks?) from across Victoria.

(Is there a wire I can pull to signal a stop?)

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post Oct 15 2008, 03:06 PM
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If we stop every time someone says 'that's interesting' between here and Endeavour - it'll take 2,000 years, not 2.
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post Oct 15 2008, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 15 2008, 05:06 PM) *
If we stop every time someone says 'that's interesting' between here and Endeavour - it'll take 2,000 years, not 2.


It reminds me :
"133:09:15 Shepard: I don't think we'll have time to go up there."
"133:09:16 Mitchell: Oh, let's give it a whirl. Gee whiz. We can't stop without looking into Cone Crater. (Garbled) everything if we don't get there."
Well... I'm on Mitchell's side ! laugh.gif
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post Oct 15 2008, 03:38 PM
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Cone Crater probably isn't a good example, given that they couldn't really find it and never made it smile.gif

Put it this way - if I had to make a choice between stop 'C' - and Explorer crater - I would say 'C'. You have to draw a line somewhere, really.

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post Oct 15 2008, 04:00 PM
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Oh, we are 100% in back-seat driving mode, aren't we? laugh.gif

Meanwhile, here's Cape Victory as seen by the pancam (L2 filter) "this evening" (sol 1680).
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post Oct 15 2008, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Oct 15 2008, 09:00 AM) *
Meanwhile, here's Cape Victory as seen by the pancam (L2 filter) "this evening" (sol 1680).

Quit teasing us. There's nothing we can do about it now.


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post Oct 15 2008, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Oct 15 2008, 10:12 AM) *
Quit teasing us. There's nothing we can do about it now.


That's life, I guess. I think the incline is too steep, anyway. At least that's what I'm telling myself rolleyes.gif

This one suffers from all sorts of compressed JPG and brightness stretching issues, but here's the QuickTime VR for Sol 1679 so far (2.9MB)
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post Oct 15 2008, 06:16 PM
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I've long wondered about access to deep layers via some of the eroded capes, rather than the bays. Look at Capes Victory, Frio, and the "backside" of the Beacon (St. Mary). With the new imagery, I estimate the slope leading down towards the tip of Cape Victory at around 15 to 20 degrees, which on the surface sounds drivable. But some of that slope looks like it might be quite rough.

We have to assume that Duck Bay was deemed either safer or more interesting than these alternatives.
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post Oct 15 2008, 07:25 PM
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Whether or not we'll ever see a closeup view of Explorer from ground, we always have the HiRISE imagery. I don't remember seeing anaglyphs of the southern bays and Exp, so I made one myself. (In full res, using PSP_001414_ and 009141_1780)

I have an impression that the bay nearest to Exp is already in the process of eating into the little crater, and thus its present west rim is not anymore the 'original' one, as revealed by its inward deviation and slight dip from the otherwise nicely symmetrical rim.

Also see the unusually sharp edge of the tip of the cape next to (left of) Explorer.
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post Oct 15 2008, 07:33 PM
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Heck of a view down into VC from the latest stopping place... blink.gif



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