Goodbye Victoria, The long trek has started |
Goodbye Victoria, The long trek has started |
Oct 31 2008, 08:02 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Oppy on the rocks... ain't no big surprise...
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Oct 31 2008, 10:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2785 Joined: 10-November 06 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 1345 |
I wonder if they chose this route to try out some of the new automatic driving software on more challenging terrain?
Or if they have some science targets in mind? Either way, this will provide a great opportunity (!) to try and correlate with predicted models as they drive over increasingly difficult terrain. (Are the drivers using this to test out their terrain models?) -Mike -------------------- Some higher resolution images available at my photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/
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Oct 31 2008, 10:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 5-June 08 From: Udon Thani Member No.: 4185 |
I wonder if they chose this route to try out some of the new automatic driving software on more challenging terrain? Sounds unlikely to me, the software can be easily tested on earth using simulations or backup hardware, no use to do the testing on Mars. Also, which ever route they select, there will always be challenging terrain ahead so not much use to run as fast as possible towards the highest dunes. Or if they have some science targets in mind? Sounds more likely to me, bedrock is a lot more interesting then sand and there might be other reasons. Looking at the HiRISE images I don't believe so much in the 'highway' story, there are some open stretches with bedrock but further on the 'wavelength' of the dunes gets less and there are a lot of cross-dunes, to me this doesn't look like terrain where you can make a lot of speed. But probably the real drivers have more information and certainly far more experience. What worries me is the risk of loosing a wheel, this isn't the sort of terrain to drive through with only 5 wheels I should think... Why steer yourself into this maze if there is nice flat ground close by? But there is more on heaven and earth then thou hast dreamed of.. Either way, this will provide a great opportunity (!) to try and correlate with predicted models as they drive over increasingly difficult terrain. (Are the drivers using this to test out their terrain models?) Or ours? |
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Oct 31 2008, 04:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1619 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Bergerac - FR Member No.: 678 |
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Oct 31 2008, 07:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 30-March 05 Member No.: 223 |
QUOTE Or if they have some science targets in mind? Sounds more likely to me, bedrock is a lot more interesting I hope not too soon We studied this kind of bedrock literally a thousand times by now (like the long stop at Olympia etc.) If I understood the new rover strategy correctly, then now is the time to reverse the priorities from rock studies to driving for a while ... and spare the science for the important cases when/if we find something *really* new ... |
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Oct 31 2008, 07:13 PM
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Don't mention "science targets" we're on the road again...
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Oct 31 2008, 07:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 111 Joined: 14-March 05 From: Vastitas Borealis Member No.: 193 |
An anaglyph of Oppy's current locations from HiRise imagery, looking to the south, shown at a slightly oblique angle. The resolution is full transversely (at the bottom) and ~65 % longitudinally. Note that the 'real' depth in the anaglyph is relative to the (image) surface, so there's no visual depth in the seemingly oblique perspective which is just a simple visualization tehcnique.
The beginning of the drift-free highway about 400 m south from Oppy is just visible near the upper right corner. |
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Oct 31 2008, 09:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Some tidbits from the monthly status report @ TPS:
(thanks Bobby for the heads up) Last weekend, we did a 216-meter drive that fell short of our all-time record by just 4 meters," offered Squyres. Both Spirit and Opportunity are downlinking data every day to free up flash memory space in preparation for solar conjunction ... The solar conjunction begins at the end of November, so the team has charged the rovers with getting all recent images and science observations home so there will be plenty of room to store the data collected during the solar conjunction. The plan is to head southwest “to intersect some terrain that has a fair amount of pavement-like outcrop on it,” Squyres said. Expounded Matijevic: "This area [which has not yet been named] is about a kilometer or kilometer and a half south of Victoria and we're moving pretty well along the rim of the crater down towards that outcrop." From that point, said Squyres, "we'll just follow the yellow brick road to the south." ... "We've been keeping our eyes open and every day we look around for a cobble to look at," Squyres said. The team would like to find one on which the rover can place its instrument deployment device (IDD) during solar conjunction, he noted. We've had to go a little bit out of our way with Opportunity, but we have generally been traversing fairly well," said Matijevic. Even so, he added, "the path we sort of picked to the new crater goes around some of these obstacles, the purgatoids, and probably means we'll be driving more like a total of 18 kilometers to get to the edge of Endeavour." Edited: During the final sols of September, Opportunity crossed the 12-kilometer (7.5-mile) milestone ... ... and already crossed the 13km milestone too (sol 1695, if I'm not wrong). |
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Oct 31 2008, 10:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 166 Joined: 20-September 05 From: North Texas Member No.: 503 |
[ "we'll be driving more like a total of 18 kilometers to get to the edge of Endeavour."]
That sounds like a long way. But Oppy did 216 meters in one day. A 180 meter drive in a single day puts us 1% of the way there. We only need 100 of those 180 meter drives to get there! |
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Oct 31 2008, 11:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2921 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
A little reminder : she was garenty for 600m during her whole life
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Oct 31 2008, 11:34 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Has done 13k, asking for another 18k, so a total ask of 31km
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Nov 1 2008, 03:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 5-June 08 From: Udon Thani Member No.: 4185 |
Has done 13k, asking for another 18k, so a total ask of 31km Which would mean she is getting closer to the all-time record set by the Soviet Lunokhod 2, which travelled 37 km (on the moon). Never thought that the MER's would get anywhere near that distance, there is a big difference in how both machines were run (reflecting the difference in distance earth-moon and earth-mars) and the Lunokhods were moving a lot faster. |
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Nov 1 2008, 03:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
Some older images came down. Here's my attempt at the Sol 1691-1692 Navcam QuickTime VR (2.3 MB). I've adjusted this one so you can zoom way out; pan all the way down for a pseudo-polar. And it starts out looking south.
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Nov 1 2008, 10:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 877 Joined: 7-March 05 From: Switzerland Member No.: 186 |
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Nov 5 2008, 11:15 PM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
Hmm. A new drunken sailor technique or something else interesting. Unusual half frame look at the rear wheels. Animation: [attachment=16348:drunken.gif] BTW - Is it time to start a new thread for this journey? Victoria is now 'far' behind. 'The Road to Endeavour: Leg One' perhaps. Tesh, Rui? Tap, tap. Is this thing on? Well, it seems that for the time being I can post, with some restrictions, to UMSF! -- These subframe RHAZ were taken to monitor the path taken during the autonav portion of the drive. Autonav is pretty CPU intensive and it depends on how wide is the area analyzed in front of the rover. If we use only a single NAVCAM frame we can only drive straight ahead. In this configuration autonav will only stop the rover in case the road straight ahead is blocked. As you are aware, the stuck RF wheel makes our "straight ahead" driving drift to the left. So from time to time the rover needs to correct the heading but in order to do so we need to use ore than one NAVCAM frame, which makes it a much slower driving. We are experimenting with some techniques to reduce the wider field of view autonav to a minimum and therefore make as much progress as possible given the alloted time for driving. Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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