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Post Cook Islands Bedrock and Soil Science Studies, The 3rd leg in our Journey to Endeavour Crater |
Apr 28 2009, 01:55 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Apr 29 2009, 06:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Well, after an "unscheduled stop" it's time to start again.
Tosol (1871) drive moved us around 50m due south. |
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Apr 30 2009, 04:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
I have a question. For most of this mission Opportunity's stereo imagery has been recorded with either the "red" filter stereo pair (L2R2) or the "blue" filter stereo pair (L7R1). A while back Opportunity started recording L6R1 stereo pairs for images where I would have expected to see L7R1 pairs. The L7R1 pair is still being used to image the color target and certain close-ups of the ground.
I understand that the difference between the L7 (440 nm. wavelength) and L6 (483 nm. wavelength) filters is minor, but I can't imagine why this change was made. Does anyone here have any thoughts about that? By the way, I noticed this when MidnightMarsBrowser did not generate pancam anaglyphs when I could see that there were pancam stereo pairs available. I like to view anaglyph panoramas in MMB, so I thought I'd mention this simple work-around for anyone else who has been missing Opportunity's pancam anaglyphs. AFAIK, MMB versions 2.x do not allow one to specify which filters to use for generating anaglyphs, but earlier versions (i.e, ver. 1.5) do. I simply run the earlier version and instruct it to generate L6R1 anaglyphs. Once they are generated, MMB 2.x is able to use them in its panoramas. N.B. I can hear Mike saying, "Don't forget to tell them never to run the different versions at the same time, or the image indices will be corrupted." -------------------- ...Tom
I'm not a Space Fan, I'm a Space Exploration Enthusiast. |
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Apr 30 2009, 07:07 AM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
I have a question. For most of this mission Opportunity's stereo imagery has been recorded with either the "red" filter stereo pair (L2R2) or the "blue" filter stereo pair (L7R1). A while back Opportunity started recording L6R1 stereo pairs for images where I would have expected to see L7R1 pairs. The L7R1 pair is still being used to image the color target and certain close-ups of the ground. I understand that the difference between the L7 (440 nm. wavelength) and L6 (483 nm. wavelength) filters is minor, but I can't imagine why this change was made. Does anyone here have any thoughts about that? .... Nothing, I mean, nothing escapes the inquisitive eyes of UMSF! Unfortunately the terrain in Meridiani does not have much texture when you are around ripples. As a result the ground based stereo correlation algorithm has only a handful of features to latch on and therefore our pancams have very little 3D data points. As you have probably observed the blue stereo (L7R1) images are much sharper than the red (L2R2) and my hope was that using blue stereo we would be getting much better results but alas that did not happen. Red stereo instead has blurrier images but has larger contrast: you can differentiate much better between rocks and soil, and banding on the ripples. So a few weeks ago I started asking for L6R1 with the hope that this would be a good compromise between the two. It sort of gets slightly better results, the difference is not dramatic but noticeable. Since my initial request it has become the default for drive direction pancams. Hope this helps. Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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Apr 30 2009, 01:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
I simply run the earlier version and instruct it to generate L6R1 anaglyphs. Once they are generated, MMB 2.x is able to use them in its panoramas. Yeah; unfortunately MMB 2.0 was never really finished, and probably never will be. In this case, though, it would only take me a few minutes to patch the program to do L6R1 anaglyphs, so I will probably do that at some point. I hadn't consciously noticed the problem yet. This isn't the first change in imaging that has slightly 'broken' MMB. The biggest one is probably that, a few months ago, suddenly multiple versions of images with dropouts started getting pushed out; you now see multiple versions of the same image ending in "M1," "M2," "M3," etc., with the last one being the (usually) complete version. Since before a few months ago images were always replaced rather than copied, MMB was never programmed to handle this; so for panoramas it always takes the first one, which is always the one with the most dropouts. D'oh! Fortunately you can work around this manually; and maybe someday I'll have time to fix that one, too. But anyway, we noticed that one too, Paolo |
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Apr 30 2009, 04:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
> ... Fortunately you can work around this manually ...
I can easily think of an unix script to do it through the whole directory tree, but in windows... Any help? |
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Apr 30 2009, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
> ... Fortunately you can work around this manually ... I can easily think of an unix script to do it through the whole directory tree, but in windows... Any help? I mean in the program itself, you can select which images are displayed in panoramas. In the images list window, just uncheck the "M1" version of the image and check the "M3" version instead, for example. Only problem is this change doesn't "stick" after the program quits or after you change the image parameters. Like I said, it's a workaround for a basic problem I don't have time to fix. I suppose one could do some sort of script like you suggest, but automated file deletion sounds a bit dangerous to me. |
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Apr 30 2009, 05:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
Well I hadn't noticed the L6R1's myself. But I had noticed that we have started to get some R2's to go with the R1's again. So I can do some more colour drive direction mosaics:
1870 1871 James -------------------- |
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May 1 2009, 06:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
An extract from the latest status report in the MER page: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/sta...ll.html#sol1866
The Sol 1871 drive showed a return of the increase in the amount of current drawn by drive actuator in the right-front wheel. The project is considering mitigation practices of resting the actuator and/or driving backwards for a while. |
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May 2 2009, 05:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
It would be interesting to hear more about current thinking regarding strategies to reduce the amperage that motor is demanding. Early in the missions, driving in reverse proved to be an effective mitigation method for one of Spirit's ailing wheel's internal friction. Recently, one of Opportunity's front wheel's was able to eliminate friction by standing still for a while.
If both of those options are equally favored, I'd choose the one that continues to make forward progress, as long as the current draw did not increase. -------------------- ...Tom
I'm not a Space Fan, I'm a Space Exploration Enthusiast. |
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May 2 2009, 07:33 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
They've done both of those
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May 2 2009, 08:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4247 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
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May 2 2009, 11:33 PM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
It would be interesting to hear more about current thinking regarding strategies to reduce the amperage that motor is demanding. Early in the missions, driving in reverse proved to be an effective mitigation method for one of Spirit's ailing wheel's internal friction. Recently, one of Opportunity's front wheel's was able to eliminate friction by standing still for a while. If both of those options are equally favored, I'd choose the one that continues to make forward progress, as long as the current draw did not increase. It seems that unfrtunately driving backwards does not help, but rest is. I was told that rest allows the lubricant to flow back into the gears. The RF currents are back up again and in a few sols we will be resting again I think. Sigh.... Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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May 3 2009, 12:23 AM
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She's getting old, when did walking backwards ever help an old lady? - Just let her rest a little...
Non so se tifi per qualche squadra, ma io stavo a San Siro stasera, e mi sembra che Inter sta per vincere il campeonato... |
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May 3 2009, 12:47 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10172 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Drive until the axles melt!
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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