Getting Unstuck in West Valley |
Getting Unstuck in West Valley |
Jun 1 2009, 04:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
EDIT: Quick mosaic of today's soil images. [attachment=18202:MI_soil.jpg] Let me guess a bunch, of luckless college interns are going to be tasked with manually taking an inventory of grain sizes so the test bed team can recreate a terrestrial analog to this particle mixture? -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jun 1 2009, 05:20 AM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
Good to be able to view the previous pictures. Congrats to Astro0. In order to know exactly the aspects of the picture. First, Spirit was traveling backward toward South (Braun Von), its IDD is on the North side. Hence, the picture was taken from North to South. The picture, I can see two rear wheels (RL and RR), both are around 70% buried. The right side of picture(RL) seems to be more obstructed, probably by a small spheric stone. The left side (RR), close to a cut stone, has higher position than the right side. The picture, I am not able to see the middle wheels. Hope for another MI to have a better idea of the situation. I believe that what you are referring to the rear wheels are in fact the middle wheels. The right left is behind the left middle (on the right side on the mosaic). Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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Jun 1 2009, 05:22 AM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
Let me guess a bunch, of luckless college interns are going to be tasked with manually taking an inventory of grain sizes so the test bed team can recreate a terrestrial analog to this particle mixture? How do you know? ;-) The shovels are ready! Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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Jun 1 2009, 03:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Getting away from the mobility situation for a moment, there was a stunning DD sequence on sol 1919:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...DQP2288L2M1.JPG http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...DQP2288L5M1.JPG http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...DQP2288L7M2.JPG It shows a pair of what must be gargantuan devils, since they appear to be past the horizon - I can't see any bright parts in front of the ground, just the dark silhouettes against the sky. |
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Jun 1 2009, 03:54 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
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Jun 1 2009, 06:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
I've stretched and stretched and squinted and can't see any hint of devils in the foreground.
But I'd say these devils are not much more than a few hundred metres across. We're something like 20 metres above the plains (see these contour maps). On Mars that means the horizon should be around 11 or 12 km away (assuming level plains). If you look at views of Grissom Hill and the big crater in behind it such as this one, the horizon looks closer in distance to Grissom, which is maybe 8 km away. At that distance the largest of these devils (just under 2 degrees across) would be around 270 metres across, which is comparable to other large devils we've seen. Of course the devils could be larger if they are farther. But they don't need to be kms across. |
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Jun 1 2009, 09:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 23-October 04 From: Greensboro, NC USA Member No.: 103 |
Hmm, on my computer screen I can clearly see them extended into the foreground.
-------------------- Jonathan Ward
Manning the LCC at http://www.apollolaunchcontrol.com |
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Jun 2 2009, 12:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
Getting away from the mobility situation for a moment, there was a stunning DD sequence on sol 1919: You didn't include this one, which was taken just a few minutes later pointing just to the right: http://nasa.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/...DQP2288L2M1.JPG. Not a dust devil there, more like a wind front. No wonder the deck is clean! |
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Jun 2 2009, 07:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2920 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Do we have some pics of the clean deck shot recentely?
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Jun 2 2009, 05:10 PM
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Martian Photographer Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 3-March 05 Member No.: 183 |
For fredk's set of 3 images, it would appear there are 4 DDs, 2 moving in tandem to the left (S), 1 indeterminate, and 1 moving faster. There is nothing in front of the horizon at the <1% level in the, uh, "good" images. So I'd buy them as a couple 300-m class DDs with a couple smaller ones.
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Jun 2 2009, 06:29 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 23-February 09 From: Edmonton, Alberta Member No.: 4611 |
Do we have some pics of the clean deck shot recentely? there's a small one in the latest PS update (from s1907) http://www.planetary.org/news/2009/0531_Ma...ate_Spirit.html hard to believe that's our girl ...forgot the panels were any colour but red edit: lots of wind in the latest batch of NavCams ie: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/na...DNP1561L0M1.JPG http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/na...DQP1561L0M1.JPG Q: are all of those 256x1024 images "DD watchers" |
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Jun 2 2009, 09:38 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 23-February 09 From: Edmonton, Alberta Member No.: 4611 |
here's my attempt at cleaning up http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/mi...DQP2906M2M2.JPG
Larger rez image here (but best viewed at 30-50% zoom) http://sidfishes.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=93 |
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Jun 2 2009, 11:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
Good sequence for animation here. Is someone doing it? -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jun 3 2009, 12:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
This is a quick version of part of the sequence.
Needs lots of work and I've squeezed it up for 16:9 to show the scene. Stretches the view a bit (but that happens on UMSF! ) DD_palooza.wmv ( 1.9MB ) Number of downloads: 1215 |
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Jun 3 2009, 12:44 AM
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Martian Photographer Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 3-March 05 Member No.: 183 |
Q: are all of those 256x1024 images "DD watchers" The P1561s are all fast dust devil movies (p1560 are "regular" movies, but haven't been used much lately, and WATCH has been used little if at all recently). We deleted a batch of the movies that have no dust devils a bit ago, so there was some selection bias to having dust devils, although the most recent ones hadn't been vetted. These go back as far as 1888. Spirit's quite deep into flash to be transmitting those. BTW, last I saw of the deck, the body and wing panels were pretty clean but the rear panel was quite dirty. But there've been more events since the pan. |
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