The western route, 5th leg after stop at Absecon / Reeds Bay |
The western route, 5th leg after stop at Absecon / Reeds Bay |
Aug 10 2009, 04:46 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
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Aug 10 2009, 04:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
In case anyone missed it, from Maxwell's blog they may be considering just that:
QUOTE imaging other sides of Block Island is under discussion
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Aug 10 2009, 04:57 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
What's to discuss? Oppy's sat at the corner of "No" and "Where", next to the biggest, most gorgeous frakking meteorite seen during the whole mission, surrounded by mile after mile of (bleep) all... what else are they gonna do?
Seriously, I know it's not a priority, and they have a lot of things to consider. The meteorite collector, rock hound and martian tourists in me are all just desperate to see the whole thing. -------------------- |
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Aug 10 2009, 05:20 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
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Aug 10 2009, 07:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 910 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Boston Member No.: 1102 |
Clearly should be called South America!
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Aug 10 2009, 09:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 30-March 05 Member No.: 223 |
... what else are they gonna do? "Drive, Drive, Drive" Squyres said. "Opportunity is going for the home run of Endeavour Crater." http://www.planetary.org/news/2009/0131_Mars_Exploration_Update_Spirit_and.html ://http://www.planetary.org/news/2009/...pirit_and.html Our final destination is still 15 kilometers away ... and many more un-seen wonders are waiting to be studied there SCNR Nirgal |
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Aug 11 2009, 02:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Since we normally etch iron-nickel meteorites with acid to expose their Widmanstatten structure, the fact that this naturally weathered, Martian meteorite may be displaying such internal crystallinity on its surface suggests that it may have been exposed to an acidic environment in its past. There's a lot of interesting info about BI in the latest press release. For example, in relation to Rocker's comment above, QUOTE "Normally this pattern is exposed when the meteorite is cut, polished and etched with acid," said Tim McCoy, a rover team member from the Smithsonian Institution in Washington. "Sometimes it shows up on the surface of meteorites that have been eroded by windblown sand in deserts, and that appears to be what we see with Block Island." Also, QUOTE At about a half ton or more, Block Island is... several times too big to have landed intact without more braking than today's Martian atmosphere could provide.
"Consideration of existing model results indicates a meteorite this size requires a thicker atmosphere," said rover team member Matt Golombek... "Either Mars has hidden reserves of carbon-dioxide ice that can supply large amounts of carbon-dioxide gas into the atmosphere during warm periods of more recent climate cycles, or Block Island fell billions of years ago." |
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Aug 11 2009, 03:55 AM
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Yes, unlike many a press release, the JPL press release cited by Fredk is WELL worth while. And Alan, you have bragging rights for some time on UMSF -- that dark rock off to the South of Oppy's path has turned out to be quite a find!
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Aug 11 2009, 05:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
Considering that the meteorite is sitting on a sandy, wind-swept plain, it's logical to assume the patterns were etched by blown sand. I had never seen an example of an Fe-Ni meteorite displaying Widmanstatten structure on a naturally weathered surface, but the full images and captions page from that press release contains a nice example found on Earth, on which they say the pattern was enhanced by sand-blasting.
I was hoping that the two hypotheses, abrasive wind blasting and acid etching, might be distinguished with the tools available to the rover. After doing a little digging around, it appears that is going to be difficult. The pattern essentially exists because of alternating crystalline layers of two minerals, taenite and kamacite. The pattern can become visible due to differences in their acid solubilities or their resistances to aolian erosion. It appears that kamacite's hardness is 4, while that of taenite is 5 to 5.5. Kamacite is also more soluble in acid solutions than taenite. The bottom line is, kamacite layers should be eroded or corroded more deeply, regardless of whether acid solutions or blowing grains were the cause. -------------------- ...Tom
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Aug 11 2009, 08:41 AM
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There's an interesting discussion of BI on the meteorite mailing list. Look for the thread that starts out titled 'Must-see Martian in 3-D'.
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Aug 11 2009, 01:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 237 Joined: 22-December 07 From: Alice Springs, N.T. Australia Member No.: 3989 |
I've finally bitten the bullet and done a colour image - I worked on SAmerica but I reckon it's just about worth having another version of, even if it's my first try. Colour looks quite good on my screen!! There's certainly a lot to learn - but it's heaps of fun....and to have fresh Mars pics to do it with!! With the likes of James, Ant, Stu, Astro0 (to mention a few!) there's high standards to aim for..... thanks for inspiring me you guys.
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Aug 11 2009, 03:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-October 06 From: Maynard Mass USA Member No.: 1241 |
Awesome job Hugh! crisp, colorful, and relevant!
Thanks for sharing! -------------------- CLA CLL
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Aug 11 2009, 08:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 237 Joined: 22-December 07 From: Alice Springs, N.T. Australia Member No.: 3989 |
Thanks PDP8E! I'll definitely try and do a post or two when I can. Midnight Mars Browser makes it so easy to grab and review MER pics.
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Aug 11 2009, 09:32 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Just got back from work and saw your pic Hugh. Good job! :-)
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Aug 11 2009, 09:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 258 Joined: 22-December 06 Member No.: 1503 |
This always amuses me. People generally see what they want to see.
That image that supposedly looks like South America was cropped. The actual outcrop extends further up and down, if you zoomed out. Because of the cropping of the image, the illusion is that the outline appears to be South America shaped. In reality, it is far different. Regardless, it is a great image!! I like it too. |
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