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Nov 10 2009, 01:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Canada Member No.: 721 |
Noooooo!!!!!
I want my, I want my, I want my QTV.... um, R. |
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Nov 10 2009, 02:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1281 Joined: 18-December 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 124 |
Say no more!
(About time I did something around here... I hope I got the x and y settings right!) Sol 2058 3.2 mb QTVR file -------------------- Lyford Rome
"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test |
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Nov 10 2009, 05:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
Marquette doesn't look like a typical Meridiani rock to me. Besides, does anyone think they would stop to do a science campaign on a loose piece of the local bedrock? If this was a fragment of ejecta from the nearby "fresh crater," it is unlikely to be anything new, since that impact could have only excavated relatively shallow rocks. It seems more likely that this is either bedrock ejecta from a distant impact, or it is a meteorite fragment.
I look forward to seeing more imagery of Marquette, especially MIs. I am intrigued by paxdan's observation noting similarities to shatter cones. -------------------- ...Tom
I'm not a Space Fan, I'm a Space Exploration Enthusiast. |
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Nov 10 2009, 07:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
Marquette doesn't look like a typical Meridiani rock to me. Besides, does anyone think they would stop to do a science campaign on a loose piece of the local bedrock? Any science campaign here -- as already noted* -- could owe a lot to the necessity of giving the current-sucking wheel a rest. But Marquette does look different to me as well.*"The right-front wheel is now showing a return of elevated motor currents. The plan ahead is to rest the actuator during an extended stop for an in-situ (contact) science campaign." |
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Nov 10 2009, 08:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2921 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
"The plan ahead is to rest the actuator during an extended stop for an in-situ (contact) science campaign." So, we'll have plenty of MI's of MI -------------------- |
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Nov 10 2009, 03:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4247 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
It also doesn't look typical Meridiani to me. The latest set of pancams are under very different illumination than the first closeups. Notice how Marquette, as well as what are presumably fragments of the same original rock, is now showing some specular reflection (black arrows in attached image). Not the extensive reflection we had from the Fe-Ni meteorites, but not like regular Meridiani rock either.
On the other hand, something caught my eye that looks kind of like a blueberry (white arrow). Of course the resolution isn't quite good enough to be sure, so I too am really looking forward to MIs of MI! |
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Nov 10 2009, 04:22 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Notice how Marquette, as well as what are presumably fragments of the same original rock, is now showing some specular reflection (black arrows in attached image). I noticed that the other day; there's a block of something at the base of MI that shows it pretty clearly... I keep thinking back to 'Granada', on the edge of Victoria, where we saw two very different types of rock in close proximity to each other... one type shot through with fractures and cracks, the other much denser-looking... -------------------- |
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Nov 10 2009, 04:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
If this rock does consist of local Meridiani base rock; i.e. what the "pavement" is made of, then it is not very old at all. As I recall the RATs on this stuff have gone in very easily. As such, in this wind and sand blown environment a vertically standing sharp edge like that would not last long before it was rounded down. So in that event we could indeed be looking at ejecta from Fresh Crater.
And that reminds me. Does anyone know if a hardness formula was ever developed (or even workable at all) for the RAT? Perhaps a ratio of the number of motor turns to current draw? -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Nov 10 2009, 04:42 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
From what I can see on my latest 3D pic, there is rubble from here to the horizon...
http://twitpic.com/p07dk/full And there's some very interesting new structure visible on the sky-facing side of the slab, if you anaglyphalise (is that a word? It shoudl be! ) today's pics... http://twitpic.com/p08v2 -------------------- |
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Nov 10 2009, 05:22 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
And there's some very interesting new structure visible on the sky-facing side of the slab, if you anaglyphalise (is that a word? It shoudl be! ) today's pics... Today's pics? Where are you seing today's pics? I can't see today's pics... BTW and totally off topic...are you seated Stu? Have you seen Alan Stern's latest status at FB? "About to call a teacher and ask her to think about flying in space-- again." -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Nov 10 2009, 05:40 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Today's pics? Where are you seing today's pics? I can't see today's pics... Just got back from work and haven't seen them before, so they're "today's" for me -------------------- |
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Nov 10 2009, 07:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
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Nov 11 2009, 07:08 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
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Nov 11 2009, 10:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
I think MI is out of the IDD workvolume after this drive, just a bit, so I would expect another step towards the rock before attempting any sniffing/imaging.
Edited: ... assuming the plan is to "touch" the rock and not only to do a 360º survey. |
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Nov 11 2009, 10:44 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
They might be planning a 360 before the IDD campaign to ensure they're in the best spot for an extended IDD campaign to give the FR a chance to catch its breath.
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