Stardust-NExT, Revisiting Tempel 1 |
Stardust-NExT, Revisiting Tempel 1 |
Feb 15 2011, 05:28 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
I think I can see KrisK's and Bjorn's impact candidates in the pre-impact Deep Impact image. Actually I was just trying to guess from the DI image approximately where the crater might be without actually trying to identify it in the new images so this is normal. One thing now seems certain though: Any crater from the DI impact isn't big (actually it occurs to me if there might possibly be no identifiable new crater, possibly due to a lot of dust?). |
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Feb 15 2011, 05:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1421 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
Phil mentions he's seen things have dissapeared. The crater may have eroded away over the past few years.
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Feb 15 2011, 05:36 PM
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Feb 15 2011, 05:37 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 25-March 10 Member No.: 5281 |
Regardless of how visible the DI crater is, I'm very impressed with how well the predicted flyby geometry matches the images. It looks like they timed the flyby flawlessly. Despite the pre-flyby handwringing that they might have targeted the incorrect peak in the rotation light curve, it looks like they chose correctly!
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Feb 15 2011, 05:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Some things seem to have disappeared, but nothing formed. Disappeared or invisible due to low phase angle? -------------------- |
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Feb 15 2011, 05:44 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 15-October 09 Member No.: 4979 |
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Feb 15 2011, 05:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
I'm wondering about the phase angle too. I was ready to declare an identification of the crater based on Phil's enhancement of this earlier image (see dark circularish ring inside my white circle):
But that dark ring seems to be invisible in the closer image. Could that be due to the change in viewing geometry? |
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Feb 15 2011, 05:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1421 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
More pics.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/stardust/st.../n30035te01.jpg http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/stardust/st.../n30036te01.jpg http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/stardust/st.../n30037te01.jpg http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/stardust/st.../n30039te01.jpg http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/stardust/st.../n30040te01.jpg http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/stardust/st.../n30041te01.jpg http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/stardust/st.../n30042te01.jpg -------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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Feb 15 2011, 05:55 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
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Feb 15 2011, 05:56 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
More pics. Is there a need to link to every image? They can all be easily seen here http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stardust...ion1/index.html -------------------- |
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Feb 15 2011, 06:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
Stardust on the left, Deep Impact on the right, with the "official" impact site arrowed. I sure don't see the new crater... Yeah, no crater... but maybe it caused the obliteration of the dark spot just above the arrow point in the DI image? -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Feb 15 2011, 06:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 146 Joined: 23-August 06 From: Vriezenveen, Netherlands Member No.: 1067 |
Great images! I expected the crater to be much bigger! Now we can't even find it..
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Feb 15 2011, 06:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 655 Joined: 22-January 06 Member No.: 655 |
Absolutely amazing pictures - I was expecting less quality than the DI pics, but these are comparable if not better.
I'm amazed that the crater isn't very obvious considering the material plume the impactor kicked out. That's 370kg's of copper travelling at around 10km/second. Apparently a crater in the order of 100m in diameter was envisaged. The surface obviously absorbs an impactor much more than expected. Simply amazing work on the part of the team to achieve this sort of targeting and imaging. |
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Feb 15 2011, 06:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
What pathetic humans we are, we can't even make a lasting impact on a measly comet...
Looking at Emily's animation, it looks like I got the geometry in post #107 about right after all. -------------------- |
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Feb 15 2011, 06:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 206 Joined: 15-August 07 From: Shrewsbury, Shropshire Member No.: 3233 |
The "EPOXI mission" scientists seem to be just as confused as the rest of us:
"Using the composite image from Deep Impact and cropping, rotating, brightening 30036 from SD-N...Where's the crater??." http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?stor...726&theater http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=499...ter#!/EPOXI To see the link you need first to log on using FACEBOOK. I have proven that any account will do. |
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