Dawn approaches Vesta, Approach phase, 3 May to 16 July 2011 |
Dawn approaches Vesta, Approach phase, 3 May to 16 July 2011 |
Jun 10 2011, 11:49 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
And any forum members who are on Facebook - please consider going to the aforementioned Framing Camera page and Liking it; it's a great and very easy way of showing interest in and support for the mission. I'm sure it's probably just a one- or two-man Outreach effort, too, so the person/people behind it will be very grateful for the support. I'm sure once the images start being released properly it'll be a great place to go to learn/talk about the mission.
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Jun 10 2011, 12:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
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Jun 10 2011, 01:50 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14431 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I'm not saying the plan was to release an approach movie Monday, but that I assume they always planned to make an approach movie. And yet we have Russell on record (see Emily's blog entry) saying QUOTE These images are optimized for determining the position of the spacecraft relative to Vesta and not for making pretty pictures of Vesta. Releasing a pretty movie on Monday, whilst taking images 'not for making pretty picture'..... that's a direct contradiction. |
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Jun 10 2011, 02:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 796 Joined: 27-February 08 From: Heart of Europe Member No.: 4057 |
I assume they always planned to make an approach movie. You can always make approach movie from enough images. Most important question about images is - how long exposition time they used? If all images are overexposed (and first image evidently isn't), then one can say bye bye to all details on Vesta's disc. Such images are normally used as optical navigation and search for moons, rings or tenuous atmosphere. But I suppose that in every approach sequence are images taken with different exposition time and maybe even with different filters. BTW, I always think that most images from spacecrafts are taken for scientific reasons and "not for making pretty pictures", it's only sheer accident, that some of us think, that space is beautiful. -------------------- |
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Jun 10 2011, 05:21 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 16-November 06 Member No.: 1364 |
Releasing a pretty movie on Monday, whilst taking images 'not for making pretty picture'..... that's a direct contradiction. It is not. You have no reason to question the P.I.'s statements. All FC images of Vesta to date have been acquired for optical navigation purposes. |
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Jun 10 2011, 05:38 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14431 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
It is Stefan. We were told that images were not being released because they were not pretty, not suitable for the public.
And now, they are. |
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Jun 10 2011, 08:54 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
It is not. You have no reason to question the P.I.'s statements. All FC images of Vesta to date have been acquired for optical navigation purposes. I take it you haven't been reading this thread. -------------------- |
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Jun 10 2011, 08:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
A pretty picture is not the same as a movie. Individual frames of a movie may make poor quality pictures, but the movie itself may be of passable quality. By the way, have they really said the approach movie was going to be "pretty"?
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Jun 10 2011, 09:14 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 4-November 10 Member No.: 5509 |
This is just directed at the situation, no one in particular- OY!
This situation has become Subnormal Unfortunate Conflicted Knowledge-confused Superunsatisfying For now the horse ( or parrot) is dead, beaten, powdered, etc. On Monday, we can see the movie, and start over, wash, rinse, repeat. |
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Jun 10 2011, 09:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
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Jun 11 2011, 01:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2079 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
Yeah, debating semantics won't get that approach movie up any sooner.
I liked the camera's FB page, for what it's worth. |
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Jun 11 2011, 04:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1018 Joined: 29-November 05 From: Seattle, WA, USA Member No.: 590 |
I still think that just 165 people who've "liked" the Camera page makes for a very, very weak statement.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/dawn.framing.camera Let me suggest that on Monday, when they do post some more pictures, we all "share" the pictures with our friends, and encourage them to "like" the Camera page. And tell them why. It's a statement of support for prompt public disclosure of scientific information. If we can't push that number over 1,000, it's hard to see why anyone should take us seriously. "Minus 165 cranks, the REAL public would happily wait months--like they always have." Let's see if we can do better! --Greg |
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Jun 11 2011, 04:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 813 Joined: 8-February 04 From: Arabia Terra Member No.: 12 |
Good plan. I've posted a link to the page on my facebook wall with a little explanation.
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Jun 11 2011, 06:09 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14431 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I still think that just 165 people who've "liked" the Camera page makes for a very, very weak statement. 105 space enthusiasts were at the JPL TweetUp 38,000 members of the general public were at Open House The TweetUp generated more traffic to websites and more mentions of projects out in the wild. |
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Jun 11 2011, 06:44 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Ok, so come Monday let's make a concerted, team effort to promote the approach movie.
If you're on Facebook, Like the movie, write about it on your wall, comment on the Framing Camera page's wall, and the Dawn mission page too. If you're on Twitter, Tweet about it, and encourage your followers to RT it, too. Just get the word out, tell as many people about it as you can, however you can. Always ending with "Great! More please!" -------------------- |
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