Post Conjunction: Santa Maria to Cape York, The Journey to 'Spirit Point' |
Post Conjunction: Santa Maria to Cape York, The Journey to 'Spirit Point' |
Jul 27 2011, 08:15 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
CAN'T WAIT for the other two panels in that drive direction pan to come down!!!
Gotta hand it to the Opportunity team, they're making it hard to turn away from a 7-year-old mission when we have shiny new things to pay attention to, like Dawn, Juno, GRAIL, and MSL -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Jul 27 2011, 08:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
James: Maybe, but my guess is a closer dune/crater/mound. The ground drops pretty dramatically in Botany Bay, so that next cape would have to be pretty tall... Yeah, I had changed my mind and deleted that part of my post just a couple of minutes after posting it. Initial excitement got the better of me. -------------------- |
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Jul 27 2011, 09:27 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
BTW, that dune is on the west side of the last big crater before Spirit point, which Stu called "Almost there" crater a while ago, -------------------- |
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Jul 27 2011, 09:32 PM
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Jul 27 2011, 09:45 PM
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Jul 27 2011, 10:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Canada Member No.: 721 |
(Are we there yet?) That's what I've been wondering? What constitutes an official arrival at Endeavour? Victoria had some pretty clear demarcation lines, most of them fatal to cross. Here we just seem to be flowing through a continuum of increasing downwardness. |
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Jul 27 2011, 11:15 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10167 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Debating this is a waste of time, but if you want a crisp definition, 'there' means at the very clearly delineated edge of the ledge surrounding Cape York. One HiRISE pixel across!
There! Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jul 27 2011, 11:16 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Not that it matters, really, but I'll consider us 'there' once Oppy passes the southern end of Cape York and is halfway across Botany Bay, that's always marked the finishing line for me. Others may consider Landfall, i.e rolling up onto Cape York to represent true arrival. It's just a personal view, I guess.
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Jul 27 2011, 11:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 5-May 05 From: Mississippi (USA) Member No.: 379 |
I wonder how long any IDD work might take? Could we have a tiny tiny delay in our journey due to something called radioactive decay.
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Jul 27 2011, 11:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
That's what I was going to go with, Phil. Seems as good as any, and that strand line is a clear marked "finish" line right there on the surface. However, Oppy's trek has always been a series of "finish" lines, as soon as we get to one (edge of Endurance, edge of Victoria, edge of Endeavour), we/they spot another place we/they want to go to. So quite frankly, does it really matter?
-------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Jul 28 2011, 12:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
Since Endeavour is mostly covered by sulfate sediments, perhaps "there" is when the first (basaltic?) material of the actual crater material is encountered, presumably on Cape York.
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Jul 28 2011, 12:40 AM
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I remember reading about how long it takes the MB to do an integration these days; I know at landing it was 12 hours. So many half-lives have passed!
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Jul 28 2011, 12:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 866 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 196 |
I've always considered arriving 'there' to have occurred once we have obtained a vantage point that shows most of the interior of Endeavor.
As with Victoria, it was when we arrived at a point on the crater lip where we could see not just our first glimpse of the dust-clogged drain at the bottom of the pool, but some of the foreground crater slope as well.. IMHO of course! |
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Jul 28 2011, 01:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1018 Joined: 29-November 05 From: Seattle, WA, USA Member No.: 590 |
On a journey of this length, I think it's nice to have multiple arrival points.
--Greg |
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Jul 28 2011, 03:30 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 754 Joined: 9-February 07 Member No.: 1700 |
fredk, thanks for the response. I was wondering if what Stu refers to as "Tesh's Crater" in Post 351 of this thread appears right of center in Ant103's pic in Post 1099. That crater has captivated me since it first appeared on UMSF radar. It's a pretty serious divot on the rim of a gigantic crater, never seen anything like it.
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