Cape York - Shoemaker Ridge and the NE traverse, Starting sol 2735 |
Cape York - Shoemaker Ridge and the NE traverse, Starting sol 2735 |
Nov 9 2011, 07:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
It's also possible that Oppy's left wheels rolled over Homestake in the sol 2769 move. Her left rear wheel is currently close to Homestake, perhaps even on top of it. That's one of the things that I love about Midnight Mars Browser. Where else can one get such up to date information about the daily escapades of a robotic geologist on Mars. -------------------- ...Tom
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Nov 9 2011, 07:50 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
If the theme is to be mineral veins and/or locales, I humbly nominate "Butte" for the next one after Deadwood.
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Nov 9 2011, 03:06 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
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Nov 9 2011, 03:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
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Nov 9 2011, 06:35 PM
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Very much a psychedelic work in progress - and still playing with vector maths - here's a brief aside from the geology: Thanks for the effort but your result seems counterintuitive, with maximum insolation occuring in the south polar region. Is the variable hours of sunlight, total energy received on a horizontal surface, or something else?This is my take on Martian total diurnal insolation, for all latitudes throughout the Martian year.… Andy Steve M |
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Nov 10 2011, 12:55 AM
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Thanks for the effort but your result seems counterintuitive, with maximum insolation occuring in the south polar region. I'll will check this (I have a raised eyebrow too!) but the midsummer southern hemisphere is just after perihelion - and that max insolation period is brief. What I think is happening is that, for a few weeks, the Solsworth of lowish-angle sunshine does surpass the incident energy of your average tropical day (which naturally is bracketed with your average tropical night). Andy |
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Nov 10 2011, 03:46 AM
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My take on 'deadwood'. I tried some of the auto-flare removal improvements and other minor stuff... colors are bluer/whiter due to me driving the UV filter (for internal debug reasons)
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Nov 10 2011, 03:57 AM
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Nov 11 2011, 03:45 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 17-July 11 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 6066 |
...and next we could do Now somewhere in the black mountain hills of Dakota There lived a young boy named Rocky Raccoon and the whole White Album... But seriously, @Fredk: "I don't see any veins here - perhaps they want to characterize the rock surrounding the veins?" I think that the light, broad areas are merged or consolidated veins and represent a more massive deposit of the Mystery Mineral. I'd be inclined to go over, inspect, RAT a nice flat spot and zing the chemistry for a few Sols. That would give the most return with the weak MB. If it is in fact a carbonate, it will be soft (Moh 3-4, about liek the siliceous Kieserite), so it would be an easy grind. IDing that mineral is pivotal. And yes, characterizing the surrounding rock (called country rock or wall rock) is needed. I wish we'd thwack Homestake on the way out... I ~think I see rhombohedral cleavage in some of the fragments, which is very diagnostic. --Bill The intent of stopping at Deadwood is to characterize the rock through which Homestake apparently cuts. Squyres, Arvidson and company are very adamant about this piece of data to juxtapose with the content of the Homestake APXS data. The science team doesn't seem to think they -- Homestake and Deadwood -- are the same material at all. As for RAT'ing or MB: only in our dreams. Long story short, we took a week-long detour that we expected to take only a few sols. The area ended up being so interesting to the science team that they convinced us to delay the trek. We need to boogey north on the double, because we only have so many sols to map the north-facing slopes and find our lily pads. Anything else scientifically intense will have to wait until after winter solstice (March 31). There is, by the way a truly fascinating story to tell here about the pushback between science and engineering that has gone down over the last several weeks. The lesson of it all is that it has been an extremely productive week for the entire team. There are many considerations to evaluate when saying "we have x sols until we run out of time." It was questionable to take this detour given our need to rush north before certain things outside the control of the project take over and screw us, for lack of a better description. I would like to talk about a lot of these things in a blog post, but I need to wait until a) there's a press release on the Homestake content (hint: there'll be a press release soon!), since this is absolutely crucial to the discussion of tactical tradeoffs, and clear it with the project, since it would start peeling the paint off the proverbial privileged-information laws! So much cool stuff to talk about, so little room to do it right. (Hats off to the JPL media relations folks to, for keeping me steered on the right path!) In any case, let me tell ya: it's been one hell of a week. The days I've been on tactical, I come home exhausted but enormously satisfied. We're really pulling off some magic -- not in sequencing complexity but in teamwork and engineering balancing acts. And the findings at Homestake are... well, pretty cool. Stay tuned. I'm signing off before I get any more proud and before I scoop the press release... -m |
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Nov 11 2011, 06:00 AM
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Without giving anything away Matt, are we talking about conclusions based on camera filters and visible spectrum? Because as far as I can tell that's the only instrument that has been used on Homestake.
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Nov 11 2011, 07:03 AM
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Thanks Matt!! I really love your input here so don't say anything that would end up gagging you!
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Nov 11 2011, 07:25 AM
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as far as I can tell that's the only instrument that has been used on Homestake. Nope. From the latest update:QUOTE On Sol 2764, the robotic arm was used to collect MI images of the Homestake vein, then placed the APXS for an overnight integration.
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Nov 11 2011, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE (Matt) The science team doesn't seem to think they -- Homestake and Deadwood -- are the same material at all. That became quite evident once we got Pancams of the spot-- the reddish tone of Deadwood make it appear light in unfiltered Haz- and Navcams. It is important to examine the Driftwood site, which apparently is an impactite/paleosoil that has been cooked and altered by the evident hydrothermal fluids of the Homestake veins.What we see here are the age-old push-pull between exploration and production. Ah, to be a fly on the wall at these planning meetings. I'm thinking that "adamant" may well be an understatement. Good info, and much appreciated. Yawwwnn, no 00:35 imagery, maybe we'll get some later this AM... --Bill -------------------- |
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Nov 11 2011, 06:42 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 17-July 11 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 6066 |
Without giving anything away Matt, are we talking about conclusions based on camera filters and visible spectrum? Because as far as I can tell that's the only instrument that has been used on Homestake. No, mostly APXS. But the Pancams also have a lot to say about Homestake... -m EDIT: Yawwwnn, no 00:35 imagery, maybe we'll get some later this AM... Don't hold your breath. Yestersol's plan contained... well, just about nothing (in the way of science). Not even a Tau, as far as I remember. Today's planning will be busier -- drive+imaging in the queue, coming down sometime tomorrow morning. -m |
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Nov 11 2011, 07:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1583 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
Indeed, this sure sounds like lots of APXS:
QUOTE On Sol 2764 (Nov. 2, 2011), the robotic arm was used to collect Microscopic Imager (MI) images of the Homestake vein, then placed the Alpha Particle X-ray Spectrometer (APXS) for an overnight integration. On the next sol, additional MI images were collected with a small repositioning of the APXS to better center the target within the sweet spot of the APXS. On Sol 2766 (Nov. 4, 2011), the robotic arm collected additional MI images of Homestake and positioned the APXS on a different part of the vein for another integration. On Sol 2769 (Nov. 7, 2011), Opportunity bumped about a 3 feet (1 meter) away to setup for some in-situ (contact) science on a patch of exposed bedrock, part of the same unit that contains the Homestake vein. On Sol 2770 (Nov. 8, 2011), the rover performed a small turn to position the exposure of rock outcrop within reach of the rover's robotic arm. The plan ahead is an APXS placement of the outcrop before driving away. http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/mission/status_...rtunityAll.html |
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