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Reprocessing Historical Images, Looking for REALLY big challenges?
tedstryk
post Aug 25 2005, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (scalbers @ Aug 25 2005, 09:59 PM)
Ted,

This turns out to be one that caught my eye for a good map update. I'll continue to look at the other imagery you sent me. For now, you can see my update at
http://laps.fsl.noaa.gov/albers/sos/sos.html#OBERON. Thanks again for sharing your good work.

There's enough discussion on the Uranian satellites here that I'd almost like to suggest moving these posts to a new Uranus forum in the Outer Planets section.
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No problem. Your map is great. I really need to work on my Ariel mosaic when I get the chance - the one from the highest resolution color set. The other thing I want to work on is the Titania set - there are some great images I haven't processed.


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post Aug 28 2005, 02:21 AM
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I have been working on the Venera images a bit more. Some of these are on my blog, but this is my latest project. Thre are some problems. The left hand pan has really bad color data (and I mean by Venera standards, where even good is pretty bad). Also, some areas are covered by a color mast because no color data was available.



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post Aug 29 2005, 01:54 AM
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I have also worked on my Miranda images. To the right is the super-res Miranda global color image, which I have influenced a bit with OGV data from farther out. On the left is a colorized global wide angle view during the near encounter. I think setting the images up like this puts things in perspective.



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post Aug 29 2005, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE (tedstryk @ Aug 29 2005, 01:54 AM)
I have also worked on my Miranda images.  To the right is the super-res Miranda global color image, which I have influenced a bit with OGV data from farther out.  On the left is a colorized global wide angle view during the near encounter.  I think setting the images up like this puts things in perspective.


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To be honest, the more I let OGV influence the image, the more I get this -



A bluish Miranda. I am not sure why.


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post Aug 29 2005, 03:10 AM
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Amazing stuff - I am just floored by your images, especially the Venera one. That pano really makes it seem you are standing right there on the surface of Venus; nice overview. I've got to keep reminding myself that the conditions there are so totally inhospitable, and those rocks are rocks on Venus. Wow.

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post Aug 30 2005, 11:42 PM
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Thanks. I have worked a bit more on Miranda. I have tried to assemble the global mosaic avoiding reprojection when ever possible. This is what I have so far, but there are still some serious problems.


I also did this one, of the one sliver that really seems to be improved by super-res processing (because it is covered by three sharp images).



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post Aug 30 2005, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (tedstryk @ Aug 30 2005, 07:42 PM)
I have tried to assemble the global mosaic avoiding reprojection when ever possible.
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I can understand that, for sure. Look how lumpy that dirty iceball is!
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post Aug 31 2005, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE (tedstryk @ Aug 31 2005, 12:42 AM)
I also did this one, of the one sliver that really seems to be improved by super-res processing (because it is covered by three sharp images).


Can you identify that on the global view, please?

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post Aug 31 2005, 04:54 PM
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Here you are!



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post Aug 31 2005, 04:56 PM
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My big problem with reprojection on a world like Miranda is that you end up with artificially smooth limbs unless you have a terrain model good enough to reproject on to. And that still quite difficult to do convincingly.


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post Aug 31 2005, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (tedstryk @ Aug 31 2005, 09:56 AM)
My big problem with reprojection on a world like Miranda is that you end up with artificially smooth limbs unless you have a terrain model good enough to reproject on to.  And that still quite difficult to do convincingly.
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You should contact Paul Schenk at LPI (here's his webpage) about terrain models. He's done a lot of work deriving topography of icy sats and is a nice guy.

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post Sep 2 2005, 02:01 PM
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Here's a wee treat from 1968. We have just been enjoying Spirit's hilltop panorama, and this is another view of some nice hilly scenery.

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It is Surveyor 7's view of its northern horizon. I scanned the individual images from photo hardcopy at LPI and mosaicked them by hand, adjusting the tones locally to get the best seamless effect.

I will be away for almost all of September. I hope nothing happens while I'm away. Sadly this long planned trip means I have to miss the big lunar conference in Toronto in September. Will anybody be there to report on it?

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post Sep 2 2005, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Aug 31 2005, 05:32 PM)
You should contact Paul Schenk at LPI (here's his webpage) about terrain models.  He's done a lot of work deriving topography of icy sats and is a nice guy.

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I have seen his work and am an admirer. But many others have done this mosaic with a lot of reprojecting. That is why I am trying to do it without...just to see what I can get.


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post Sep 2 2005, 02:20 PM
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I love that image! By the way, I mentioned a while back that I might be getting some new Soviet Zond and Luna imagery. My reference librarians tell me that they are close to finding what I was looking for. My fingers are crossed (I now have two reference librarians (not just the part time assistants that are usually fine for finding things) working on the issue).


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post Sep 2 2005, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Sep 2 2005, 09:01 AM)
It is Surveyor 7's view of its northern horizon.  I scanned the individual images from photo hardcopy at LPI and mosaicked them by hand, adjusting the tones locally to get the best seamless effect.
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That is remarkable, Phil. It's the way I've always wanted to see that particular vista. And I'm struck by the fact that an Apollo J mission would have had no particular problem operating in such an area -- there are abundant patches of relatively flat terrain suitable for landing a LM, and I don't see any slopes that an LRV would have had problems with. It wouldn't have been any harder to carry out a J mission here than it was at, say, Descartes.

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