IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

57 Pages V  « < 11 12 13 14 15 > »   
Reply to this topicStart new topic
First drill stop: John Klein in Yellowknife Bay, Site 6, Sol 166-271, January 23-May 12, 2013
paraisosdelsiste...
post Feb 7 2013, 11:32 AM
Post #181


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 112
Joined: 20-August 12
From: Spain
Member No.: 6597



My take on the Sol 180 drill:

Attached Image


The original size image can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5151rhkt159d66u/taladrosol180.jpg
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
PaulH51
post Feb 7 2013, 11:32 AM
Post #182


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2428
Joined: 30-January 13
From: Penang, Malaysia.
Member No.: 6853



QUOTE (xflare @ Feb 7 2013, 07:13 PM) *
There's a lot of it......I wonder if they could use the scoop to get some of that material into the chimra and then into the rover rather than up through the drill..?

I think the plan is to first drill a full depth hole, but not collect the tailings into CHIMRA, then if they consider that test OK and the tailings suitable for entry in CHIMRA, they will perform another series of drilling for collection, but that will be used to clean the drill, its sleeve and the tailings collection chambers inside CHIMRA of any contamination from earth and then the rest of the chambers of the remaining Regolith from the scooped samples taken at Rocknest. Only when they are happy with all that cleaning will they process samples for SAM and or CHEMIN smile.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Gerald
post Feb 7 2013, 12:44 PM
Post #183


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2346
Joined: 7-December 12
Member No.: 6780



A Sol 180 example of the subtle MAHLI focus stacking mechanism, using 16 low-res images (size 130%):
Attached Image
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
PaulH51
post Feb 7 2013, 01:36 PM
Post #184


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2428
Joined: 30-January 13
From: Penang, Malaysia.
Member No.: 6853



QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 7 2013, 08:44 PM) *
A Sol 180 example of the subtle MAHLI focus stacking mechanism, using 16 low-res images (size 130%):

Nice GIF Gerald! It's a pity that some of the tailings are still in the hole, or maybe we could have estimated the full depth of the hole using this method? smile.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
djellison
post Feb 7 2013, 02:12 PM
Post #185


Founder
****

Group: Chairman
Posts: 14432
Joined: 8-February 04
Member No.: 1



One could calculate the dpeth by the position of the shadow and the local solar time.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
mcaplinger
post Feb 7 2013, 02:18 PM
Post #186


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2511
Joined: 13-September 05
Member No.: 497



QUOTE (Ant103 @ Feb 7 2013, 04:01 AM) *
IMO, I think it's time to stop recording rocks pictures and take some images with a strong public impact...
with half an earth year on Mars, and so few great pictures to deal with (to dream with if I dare say), except a lot of rock collections, I think it's sad.

Wow. You having a bad day?

It's hard to take images near dawn and sunset because of thermal and Chemcam sun-pointing constraints. The ops people have been very conservative about focus, exposure, and data volume and that's led to fewer sequences that take longer than I was expecting.

That said, I think we've done pretty well considering, and your criticism is a bit over the top. I'd have thought that you, if anyone, would appreciate that.


--------------------
Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Phil Stooke
post Feb 7 2013, 02:37 PM
Post #187


Solar System Cartographer
****

Group: Members
Posts: 10153
Joined: 5-April 05
From: Canada
Member No.: 227



Here's the location of the new drill hole on the mosaic posted earlier by EdTruthan.

Phil

Attached Image


--------------------
... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.

Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke
Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf
NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Gerald
post Feb 7 2013, 02:38 PM
Post #188


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2346
Joined: 7-December 12
Member No.: 6780



Sol 180 Front Hazcam before/after drill animated stereo gif:
Attached Image
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
fredk
post Feb 7 2013, 03:28 PM
Post #189


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4246
Joined: 17-January 05
Member No.: 152



QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 7 2013, 03:12 PM) *
One could calculate the dpeth by the position of the shadow and the local solar time.
Except, as Paul mentioned, we don't know how deep the tailings are in the hole, so any such estimate would be a lower limit. Another idea would be to estimate the depth of the tailings mound on the rim of the drill hole using MC imagery (when it's down). Then use the stereo imagery or depth map to scale to the (visible) bottom of the hole.

Here's the MH view in stereo. Not perfect because of different shadows between the two frames:
Attached Image

Attached Image
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
fredk
post Feb 7 2013, 03:44 PM
Post #190


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4246
Joined: 17-January 05
Member No.: 152



QUOTE (Ant103 @ Feb 7 2013, 12:01 PM) *
with half an earth year on Mars, and so few great pictures to deal with (to dream with if I dare say), except a lot of rock collections, I think it's sad.

If I may add to the OT, your own mosaics, Ant, prove your words wrong! And your latest 170/176 late afternoon mosaic is perhaps the best yet! The fact that there's a patch shot at different sun angle proves that this is not easy, like shooting panoramas from the Eiffel Tower would be. This is Mars.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Greenish
post Feb 7 2013, 03:53 PM
Post #191


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 219
Joined: 14-November 11
From: Washington, DC
Member No.: 6237



Here's a comparison of the hole to the calibration target/penny with both resized to the same scale (assumed hole = 16mm which is just larger than the 5/8-inch drill bit diameter; it could be a bit larger).

Attached Image
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
paraisosdelsiste...
post Feb 7 2013, 04:13 PM
Post #192


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 112
Joined: 20-August 12
From: Spain
Member No.: 6597



Maybe my math is wrong due to scale issues, but could the hole be 0.85 cm. (0.33 inches) deep?
I was using my own DEM to do this calculations.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Greenish
post Feb 7 2013, 04:22 PM
Post #193


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 219
Joined: 14-November 11
From: Washington, DC
Member No.: 6237



And here are 3D views (anaglyph/crosseye) of the first hole synthesized from MAHLI depthmap.
Attached Image
Attached Image
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
eoincampbell
post Feb 7 2013, 04:37 PM
Post #194


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 399
Joined: 28-August 07
From: San Francisco
Member No.: 3511



From the status report this mini-drill test was to penetrate less than eight-tenths of an inch...


--------------------
'She drove until the wheels fell off...'
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Paul Fjeld
post Feb 7 2013, 04:53 PM
Post #195


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 150
Joined: 3-June 08
From: McLean, VA
Member No.: 4177



QUOTE (Ant103 @ Feb 7 2013, 06:01 AM) *
IMO, I think it's time to stop recording rocks pictures and take some images with a strong public impact, like sunset (or -rise), at 100 mm and 34 mm, starfielfds, self-portrait of the Mast assembly in foreground of twilight or dawn, etc. Some pictures that could say to public : Curiosity IS on Mars, and she's doing amazing things here !

I want to be careful here... Damien, I feel your frustration. Personally I wish that all NASA programs had a deliberate policy of "pretty pictures", not by accident but by design. So you'd lose maybe one percent of your science time and go for the most telling, dramatic images you could design - your ideas are a good start. But I'm grateful that the MSL team shares what it does and that some of the participates are here commenting. I'm tremendously grateful that you and the others are doing such great stuff with what is out there.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

57 Pages V  « < 11 12 13 14 15 > » 
Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 28th April 2024 - 03:26 PM
RULES AND GUIDELINES
Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting.

IMAGE COPYRIGHT
Images posted on UnmannedSpaceflight.com may be copyrighted. Do not reproduce without permission. Read here for further information on space images and copyright.

OPINIONS AND MODERATION
Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators.
SUPPORT THE FORUM
Unmannedspaceflight.com is funded by the Planetary Society. Please consider supporting our work and many other projects by donating to the Society or becoming a member.