First drill stop: John Klein in Yellowknife Bay, Site 6, Sol 166-271, January 23-May 12, 2013 |
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First drill stop: John Klein in Yellowknife Bay, Site 6, Sol 166-271, January 23-May 12, 2013 |
 Apr 6 2013, 12:13 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 4-May 11 From: Pardubice, CZ Member No.: 5979  |
Maybe I just overlooked it but do we know more details about rover's activities scheduled for conjunction time?
JPL estimates MRO will save about 12 Gb of MSL data between Apr 4th and May 1st to be transmited later. I assume there could be some detail panorama imaging campain, meteo observations and maybe some other remote sensing and mesurements. Not sure if SAM and CheMin still have some samples inside to analyse... I guess NASA will propably come with some task list later on, they have whole April for it, I'm just curious now already. 
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Apr 6 2013, 01:28 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10173 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/scienc...0,2992673.story
I would expect some dust devil searches or cloud movies as well. Repetitive things, easy to do without interaction. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Apr 6 2013, 02:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 4-May 11 From: Pardubice, CZ Member No.: 5979 |
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 6 2013, 02:28 PM)  I would expect some dust devil searches or cloud movies as well. Hmm, not sure about so much MastCam activity... This bbc article says: "Curiosity has been being put in a parking mode with its camera mast and robotic arm locked in safe positions." ... twitter is a bit tight-lipped as well: @MarsCuriosity: The team loaded me up with science observations & health checks to run during conjunction |
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Apr 6 2013, 03:20 PM
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 Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
I wonder if what we're seeing is just a difference in mission opstempo from the MERs.
The MER team tried (and still does try) to squeeze every microgram of science out of every moment since they were not expected to last long. This turned into a cultural attribute. MSL is a long-lived asset by design, so I hypothesize that there's more emphasis on planning and therefore a slower pace of execution. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Apr 6 2013, 03:33 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10173 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 6 2013, 02:28 PM)
I would expect some dust devil searches or cloud movies as well. Hmm, not sure about so much MastCam activity... This bbc article says: "Curiosity has been being put in a parking mode with its camera mast and robotic arm locked in safe positions." Good point, but a DD search can be done without moving the mast - just leave it facing in a safe direction (not pointing at any part of the sun's path) and take repetitive images. Similarly cloud movies. One or the other could be done without any mast movement at all. They would use the Navcams for wider coverage. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Apr 6 2013, 05:16 PM
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IIRC MER PMA points down when it's not in use to reduce dust deposition. Presumably MSL does the same. So at the very least you'd need to do a couple of movements each observation.
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Apr 6 2013, 06:23 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10173 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Yes, but not the mast.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Apr 6 2013, 06:37 PM
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from http://www.lpi.usra.edu/pss/april2013/pres.../2_May_Mars.pdf
QUOTE Conjunction Plans Rovers enter command moratorium today Limited relay passes w MRO and ODY Curiosity on RCE-B w functional RCE-A as back up No roving, no arm motions, mast cameras in protected positions Curiosity: Environmental monitoring with REMs, DAN, RAD |
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Apr 6 2013, 06:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
But dust devils and cloud movies, although novel and oretty pictures, are not good Geology. The MSL Program Managers seem quite pragmatic.
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Apr 6 2013, 07:40 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10173 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
OK! We know from that update that the things I suggested will not happen. But DD and cloud obs have been done already so they are not totally shunned by the mission leaders... and what better time to do non-geology than when geology is not possible? Anyway, environment only, it seems. That's fine - at least we know.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Apr 6 2013, 10:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4247 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Science is science. Geology, atmospheric, cosmology. All good.
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Apr 7 2013, 02:14 AM
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What we need during this interlude is music. May I suggest...
Eine Kleine Bohrermusik?  -the other Doug -------------------- The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right. -Mark Twain
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Apr 7 2013, 03:09 AM
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Animated GIF from six Mastcam Right images (Sols 232-234) of the two drillholes, light from different directions (without soundtrack, yet?):
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Apr 7 2013, 02:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4247 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
QUOTE (fredk @ Mar 30 2013, 11:33 PM) You fire your laser into my drill tailings: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/ms...0000E1_DXXX.jpg So I cover your laser marks with more tailings: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/ms...0000E1_DXXX.jpg ...and then you fire your laser into my tailings again: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/ms...0000E2_DXXX.jpg Where will this end? 
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Apr 7 2013, 06:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (fredk @ Apr 7 2013, 08:20 AM) ...and then you fire your laser into my tailings again: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/ms...0000E2_DXXX.jpg Where will this end? Curiosity -- the OCD rover!  -the other Doug -------------------- The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right. -Mark Twain
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