Dawn approaches Ceres, From opnav images to first orbit |
Dawn approaches Ceres, From opnav images to first orbit |
Feb 2 2015, 04:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 6-March 07 From: houston, texas Member No.: 1828 |
^ it seems that you forgot links. Since I don't have a very good intuitive idea about sizes measured in pixels, I created this infographic about how big Ceres will be at native resolution in the framing camera's images in the next weeks to come. [attachment=34955:Size_of_Ceres.png] Note how Cere's apparent size makes a big jump from 12 February to 19 February, and then the growth slows down - and even reverses for the next image taken (not included here) - due to Dawn's orbital insertion path. nice -------------------- Dr. Paul Schenk, Lunar and Planetary Institute, Houston TX
http://stereomoons.blogspot.com; http://www.youtube.com/galsat400; http://www.lpi.usra.edu/science/schenk/ |
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Feb 2 2015, 04:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2346 Joined: 7-December 12 Member No.: 6780 |
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Feb 2 2015, 09:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 6-March 07 From: houston, texas Member No.: 1828 |
^ it seems that you forgot links. Since I don't have a very good intuitive idea about sizes measured in pixels, I created this infographic about how big Ceres will be at native resolution in the framing camera's images in the next weeks to come. [attachment=34955:Size_of_Ceres.png] Note how Cere's apparent size makes a big jump from 12 February to 19 February, and then the growth slows down - and even reverses for the next image taken (not included here) - due to Dawn's orbital insertion path. I was inspired enough by Habukaz' graphic to complete my own and post one or two on my blog: http://stereomoons.blogspot.com/2015/02/ce...-into-view.html here is a rendition with Tethys images substituted in at comparable resolutions. -------------------- Dr. Paul Schenk, Lunar and Planetary Institute, Houston TX
http://stereomoons.blogspot.com; http://www.youtube.com/galsat400; http://www.lpi.usra.edu/science/schenk/ |
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Feb 3 2015, 08:04 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 495 Joined: 12-February 12 Member No.: 6336 |
Thank you Habukaz and DrShank for the comparison images.
Already looking forward for the image for this day, but yes, it will take until February 19 before we actually get out of the "speculation phase". =) |
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Feb 3 2015, 04:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
I was inspired enough by Habukaz' graphic to complete my own and post one or two on my blog: http://stereomoons.blogspot.com/2015/02/ce...-into-view.html here is a rendition with Tethys images substituted in at comparable resolutions. Nice. A visualisation of the phase was a crucial thing missing from the last sphere in my illustration. Speaking of which - I know it was speculated by some that Ceres could have a tenuous atmosphere. I don't know where that kind of speculation is now (except from the detection of water vapour by Herschel), but I guess the 25 February, 1 March and 10 April images could shed some light on this? Already looking forward for the image for this day, but yes, it will take until February 19 before we actually get out of the "speculation phase". =) I'm placing my bets on that the images taken today will show whether or not the linear features are real. You can (just barely) see them in last week's raw images. -------------------- |
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Feb 3 2015, 07:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 656 Joined: 20-April 05 From: League City, Texas Member No.: 285 |
I keep checking back for the new image, nothing yet. I was hoping to find a schedule of DSN communication with Dawn, which I didn't find, but did find this nifty (near) real-time tracking tool:
http://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html |
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Feb 3 2015, 08:24 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
You're welcome :-)
(I'm part of the team at JPL responsible for DSN Now) |
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Feb 3 2015, 08:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
OPNAV3 hasn't been acquired yet. Imaging won't until later this evening, MST. From looking at Celestia, the observations times are (keep in mind that these are just the dwell times, the actual time frame when images are actually being taken is likely shorter and in the middle of these times frames):
Footprint 1: 2015-035 02:13-07:21 UTC Footprint 2 (centered on Ceres): 2015-035 07:30-10:47 UTC Footprint 3: 2015-035 10:56-14:35 UTC The HGA is pointed toward Earth between 2015-035 15:53-2015-036 07:44 UTC (again, it might not be downlinking that entire time) So maybe some images will be released Thursday, at the earliest? -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
The Gish Bar Times - A Blog all about Jupiter's Moon Io |
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Feb 3 2015, 08:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 656 Joined: 20-April 05 From: League City, Texas Member No.: 285 |
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Feb 4 2015, 10:04 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 9-August 12 From: London, UK Member No.: 6521 |
Exciting times! I wondered if someone from JPL could give an indication of how it works with totally new images like these. Who is the first person to see a new image, are there dozens of people gathered round a single monitor as someone decodes the messages? Or is it done privately with a select few in case of embarrassment due to errors?
Very much looking forward to seeing more of Ceres:) |
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Feb 4 2015, 11:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 6-March 07 From: houston, texas Member No.: 1828 |
Exciting times! I wondered if someone from JPL could give an indication of how it works with totally new images like these. Who is the first person to see a new image, are there dozens of people gathered round a single monitor as someone decodes the messages? Or is it done privately with a select few in case of embarrassment due to errors? Very much looking forward to seeing more of Ceres:) That recalls my year working on Magellan as a tech assistant. one of my jobs was to unroll the prints from each new orbit of Venus as the latest data were processed and printed and report any gaps or flaws in the processed data. These print strips were about 4 inches wide and i foget how many feet long (more than 10 Im sure). I may have been the first to see the largest impact crater Mead, for example. but that is how the data first came down. the global mosaics of Venus we now recognize came a few weeks later after multiple orbits had accumulated. -------------------- Dr. Paul Schenk, Lunar and Planetary Institute, Houston TX
http://stereomoons.blogspot.com; http://www.youtube.com/galsat400; http://www.lpi.usra.edu/science/schenk/ |
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Feb 4 2015, 05:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
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Feb 5 2015, 09:36 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 27-June 11 From: Katlenburg-Lindau, Lower Saxony, Germany Member No.: 6038 |
Exciting times! I wondered if someone from JPL could give an indication of how it works with totally new images like these. Who is the first person to see a new image, are there dozens of people gathered round a single monitor as someone decodes the messages? Or is it done privately with a select few in case of embarrassment due to errors? Hi MichaelJWP, Thanks for your interest. As part of the Framing Camera team, I can tell you that there are three levels of criticality:
So the bottom line is that yes, a couple of people were monitoring the arrival of the images yesterday evening. I believe that there is a press release scheduled for today, but do not hold me accountable for it if it does not happen. If you have any additional questions, I will be mostly pleased to answer. -------------------- |
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Feb 5 2015, 10:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 495 Joined: 12-February 12 Member No.: 6336 |
Hello pablogm1024.
Thank you for the information. And yes also I had a look at the DSN page and noted that dish 43 in Canberra were working on Dawn around midnight for us. So yes lets hope we get to see another hint of our interesting little world today. =) |
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Feb 5 2015, 10:47 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 9-August 12 From: London, UK Member No.: 6521 |
... the bottom line is that yes, a couple of people were monitoring the arrival of the images yesterday evening. I believe that there is a press release scheduled for today, but do not hold me accountable for it if it does not happen. If you have any additional questions, I will be mostly pleased to answer. Thanks for the info, always interesting to get the detail. Waiting now with bated breath! |
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