Dawn's Survey Orbit at Ceres |
Dawn's Survey Orbit at Ceres |
Jul 21 2015, 07:00 PM
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Jul 21 2015, 07:19 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10153 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
How's this for a tweet?
Andy Rivkin @asrivkin: Russell: Can see haze in crater with bright spots at some local times. Bright spots "indicate Ceres is active today." #nesf2015 Chris Russell at the NASA Exploration Science Forum. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jul 21 2015, 07:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1630 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Pretty remarkable tweet. Did we earlier see a hazy appearance to the edges of the Spot #5 in Occator in some posted images?
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Jul 21 2015, 07:25 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 3-February 11 Member No.: 5800 |
Wow.
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Jul 21 2015, 07:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
Very bold statement. It does jibe with the "bright spot is visible when it shouldn't" line that we got earlier. Let's see what evidence they got.
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Jul 21 2015, 07:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2082 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
Wow.... that would pretty much wrap up the salt deposit hypothesis, right?
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Jul 21 2015, 08:28 PM
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Jul 22 2015, 01:47 AM
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I also see four anomalies in the crater..dark strips or something. Could be plumes or something of whats causing the phenomenom
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Jul 22 2015, 01:54 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Let's wait for the mission scientists to declare the discovery of liquid water. 'Warm' ice could conceivably sublimate to form a mist of sorts, esp. if it's rapidly cooling again & recombining into ice crystals.
Bottom line: Interesting stuff, but not enough to draw conclusions. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jul 22 2015, 01:57 AM
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Let's wait for the mission scientists to declare the discovery of liquid water. 'Warm' ice could conceivably sublimate to form a mist of sorts, esp. if it's rapidly cooling again & recombining into ice crystals. Bottom line: Interesting stuff, but not enough to draw conclusions. You are correct...but for the record. Herschel detected liquid water erupting from somewhere. Im all sorta of excited for the LAMO orbit |
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Jul 22 2015, 02:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
How's this for a tweet?... The blog entry:"Russell’s update began with some relatively mundane results.... Russell then began to discuss the surface features on Ceres, and things rapidly became much less mundane." http://www.planetary.org/blogs/guest-blogs...tor-rivkin.html |
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Jul 22 2015, 02:10 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
You are correct...but for the record. Herschel detected liquid water erupting from somewhere. Not aware that any such claim was made. Water vapor was detected; that does not imply liquid water. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jul 22 2015, 02:23 AM
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Jul 22 2015, 02:32 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
That is not correct. Although this phase diagram is not to scale, please note that the liquid phase is not possible at atmospheric pressures below 6 mb, which is obviously far higher than the effective vacuum on Ceres.
Ice on the surface of Ceres would sublimate directly into vapor if exposed to enough heat. Therefore, a plausible explanation for the purported 'mist' in Oculus may be local solar heating of ice. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jul 22 2015, 07:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
Bits of white stuff are scattered on the rims and ejecta sheets of at least four relatively fresh craters. It'd be interesting to compare and contrast with similar craters on various parts of Ceres. Yep, and I'm starting to notice "white" spots on crater rims and on the plains. It seems that many of the light areas we saw early on were unresolved white spots. And given recent observations it would seem that Ceres is subtly more active than we imagined. It will be interesting to get some spectral data from these white spots when Dawn gets down to the Mapping Orbits. --Bill -------------------- |
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