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Dawn's Survey Orbit at Ceres
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post Jul 21 2015, 07:00 PM
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A crop and zoom of portion of PIA 19600: a sloppy crater, weird cross hatch cracks near the lower edge and another fleck of the uber bright stuff near the top.

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post Jul 21 2015, 07:19 PM
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How's this for a tweet?


Andy Rivkin ‏@asrivkin:
Russell: Can see haze in crater with bright spots at some local times. Bright spots "indicate Ceres is active today." #nesf2015


Chris Russell at the NASA Exploration Science Forum.

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post Jul 21 2015, 07:24 PM
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Pretty remarkable tweet. Did we earlier see a hazy appearance to the edges of the Spot #5 in Occator in some posted images?


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post Jul 21 2015, 07:25 PM
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Wow.
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post Jul 21 2015, 07:32 PM
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Very bold statement. It does jibe with the "bright spot is visible when it shouldn't" line that we got earlier. Let's see what evidence they got.


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post Jul 21 2015, 07:52 PM
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Wow.... that would pretty much wrap up the salt deposit hypothesis, right?
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post Jul 21 2015, 08:28 PM
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What appears to be a 3D model of Occator:

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https://twitter.com/snnaka/status/623571917165821952


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post Jul 22 2015, 01:47 AM
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I also see four anomalies in the crater..dark strips or something. Could be plumes or something of whats causing the phenomenom
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post Jul 22 2015, 01:54 AM
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Let's wait for the mission scientists to declare the discovery of liquid water. 'Warm' ice could conceivably sublimate to form a mist of sorts, esp. if it's rapidly cooling again & recombining into ice crystals.

Bottom line: Interesting stuff, but not enough to draw conclusions. wink.gif


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post Jul 22 2015, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 22 2015, 02:54 AM) *
Let's wait for the mission scientists to declare the discovery of liquid water. 'Warm' ice could conceivably sublimate to form a mist of sorts, esp. if it's rapidly cooling again & recombining into ice crystals.

Bottom line: Interesting stuff, but not enough to draw conclusions. wink.gif



You are correct...but for the record. Herschel detected liquid water erupting from somewhere.


Im all sorta of excited for the LAMO orbit
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post Jul 22 2015, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 21 2015, 03:19 PM) *
How's this for a tweet?...
The blog entry:
"Russell’s update began with some relatively mundane results.... Russell then began to discuss the surface features on Ceres, and things rapidly became much less mundane."
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/guest-blogs...tor-rivkin.html
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post Jul 22 2015, 02:10 AM
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QUOTE (Steve5304 @ Jul 21 2015, 05:57 PM) *
You are correct...but for the record. Herschel detected liquid water erupting from somewhere.


Not aware that any such claim was made. Water vapor was detected; that does not imply liquid water.


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post Jul 22 2015, 02:23 AM
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QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 22 2015, 03:10 AM) *
Not aware that any such claim was made. Water vapor was detected; that does not imply liquid water.



Not to argue semantics but water vapor implies evaporation of a liquid source that replenishes. Even if if the liquid is temporary
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post Jul 22 2015, 02:32 AM
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That is not correct. Although this phase diagram is not to scale, please note that the liquid phase is not possible at atmospheric pressures below 6 mb, which is obviously far higher than the effective vacuum on Ceres.

Ice on the surface of Ceres would sublimate directly into vapor if exposed to enough heat. Therefore, a plausible explanation for the purported 'mist' in Oculus may be local solar heating of ice.


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post Jul 22 2015, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Jul 20 2015, 02:46 PM) *
Bits of white stuff are scattered on the rims and ejecta sheets of at least four relatively fresh craters. It'd be interesting to compare and contrast with similar craters on various parts of Ceres.


Yep, and I'm starting to notice "white" spots on crater rims and on the plains. It seems that many of the light areas we saw early on were unresolved white spots. And given recent observations it would seem that Ceres is subtly more active than we imagined. It will be interesting to get some spectral data from these white spots when Dawn gets down to the Mapping Orbits.

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