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post Feb 10 2017, 05:15 AM
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Hi, titanicrivers. Your thread was actually moved to the Exploration Strategy subsection since the subsequent discussion was about very early mission proposals.

LPSC abstracts are fine. In fact, there's a dedicated LPSC 2017 thread in the Conferences & Publications subsection for that.


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post Sep 29 2017, 07:04 AM
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What is up with the Planetary Society website? Call it up and one is confronted with the single choice of join or donate.
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post Sep 29 2017, 10:53 AM
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May be a browser issue with you as there is a sub page overlay that is well behaved when I go there. I'm using the current version of Microsoft internet explorer.


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post Sep 29 2017, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (serpens @ Sep 29 2017, 03:04 PM) *
What is up with the Planetary Society website? Call it up and one is confronted with the single choice of join or donate.

Getting the same options using Google Chrome....
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post Sep 29 2017, 02:07 PM
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No problems on my desktop (Windows 10) using Edge, Firefox 56.0, Chrome 61.0.3163.100 nor on mobile Android using Chrome 61.0.3163.98
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post Sep 30 2017, 07:00 AM
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Hey, all. Yeah, I see what you mean. Although UMSF is a project of The Planetary Society, the admin/mod team doesn't have any association with or control over the TPS site or any other aspect of their operations. Suggest contacting them directly with your opinions and observations via the link at the top of that page.

FYI, the other links up there work as well, so it is possible to navigate to the news section & other resources.


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post Jul 20 2018, 08:03 AM
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Why is it that the subject tiltle of Unmanned Exploration Of Comets & Asteroids has a question mark?

I ask this question because I have been wanting to use this place to mention JAXA's perhaps next asteroid
mission to Jupitor's satellites.

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post Jul 21 2018, 01:03 AM
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That question mark is an (obsolete) indicator that the original topic was intended to gather information, Pandaneko. It's also a very old topic, and has not been active for a considerable period of time.

In any case, a proposed future mission to the Jupiter system would not belong there. A better place would be in the "Exploration Strategy" section.


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post Jul 2 2020, 10:47 PM
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The MissionJuno web site changed their citizen science image upload licensing terms, removing Creative Commons options. Is mentioning this in the Juno forum outside the permitted use of this site?
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For good and valuable consideration, the receipt and sufficiency of which is hereby acknowledged, I hereby grant to NASA, and its successors, affiliates, licensees, and assigns, the irrevocable, non-exclusive right to use and/or distribute, and to permit others to use and/or distribute, the images, files, and/or materials uploaded by me to any websites, portals, and/or webpages of the Mission Juno Website (each a “Work” and collectively, the “Work(s)”) in any manner and media, now known or hereafter devised, in perpetuity, without further obligation to me. I hereby acknowledge that I am granting these rights on a gratis-basis. I represent and warrant that, except to the extent that the Work(s) incorporate any work(s) created or owned by National Aeronautics and Space Administration, I have the right to grant all rights I am granting hereunder and use of the Work(s) will not infringe the right of any third party. I will indemnify and hold harmless NASA and any user of the Work(s) from and against any and all claims, costs and expenses resulting from a breach of the foregoing representations or warranties

Thanks.
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post Jul 3 2020, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Jul 2 2020, 02:47 PM) *
The MissionJuno web site changed their citizen science image upload licensing terms, removing Creative Commons options.

Huh. They did this unilaterally without telling anybody on the Junocam team, anyway. I'll inquire as to what's going on. I agree with any criticism anyone could have about this.


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post Jul 4 2020, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jul 3 2020, 01:03 AM) *
Huh. They did this unilaterally without telling anybody on the Junocam team, anyway. I'll inquire as to what's going on. I agree with any criticism anyone could have about this.


From Scott Bolton...

''Sean, i just found out that our website has something wrong with it. We did not intend to change anything on the website regarding cc. They have been having some sort of security issues and took things down for awhile and still don’t have the control to put up new announcements or material as we used to do, like our PJ 27 data went out with reference to PJ26. Other stuff had to go to the think tank. Please share with your colleagues that this change was unintentional and will be fixed as soon as possible. ''

Still odd that the wording made it in there at all.


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post Jul 11 2020, 12:07 AM
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Thanks Mike and Seán. Your inquiries got the CC licensing back fairly quickly. Took them a bit longer to resolve an issue where uploads were being rejected due to size, but that appears fixed too now.
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post Sep 14 2020, 05:01 PM
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In light of the paper regarding phosphine gas in Venus's atmosphere, and its implications... I had a few questions on in-scope discussion, of increasing boldness:

-is discussion of phosphine gas, instruments, methods of detection, etc - without the wider implications being mentioned - OK? I presume so, but wanted to check.

-If there are instruments being designed with the assumption that the "UV absorber" in the Venusian atmosphere/the producer of the phosphine gas/the source of the albedo changes in its atmosphere are a lifeform - and wish to sample it - are the instruments allowable for discussion if wider context is scrupulously ignored? Eg - the design of a probe or instrument to do sample collection for the mid-atmosphere, or something with an on-board chemistry lab (but nothing as egregious as a PCR device)?

-would it be possible to have a rule 1.3.1 - where discussion of lifeforms in the atmosphere are allowed in the Venus sub-forum - but only on how it *directly* effects the design and creation of a *specific instrument*. eg - how to design an instrument to look for presumptive life is OK if the discussion is limited to technical points regarding its design and construction (configuration a would be better for organic matter, configuration b would be better for looking at nucleic acids, etc) - but wider discussions on possible forms that life could take, its ecosystem and lifecycle, etc would still be firmly prohibited?
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post Sep 14 2020, 06:40 PM
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Don't start arguments about whether anything is biogenic or abiogenic. And you'll probably be ok.
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post Sep 14 2020, 07:43 PM
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Hey, all. Good questions, and we're discussing it.

Happy to say that thus far today everything's remained in-scope, and thanks for doing that. To be clear, the main purpose of 1.3 is to not let the Forum degenerate into just another hand-wavy eye-spinning mouth-frothing gibberfest as is all too common across the web...as you all know depressingly well, else I suspect that you would not be here in the first place. wink.gif We have a reputation for rational, reality-based discourse that was hard-earned after many years, and maintaining that has over time has drawn many robotic spaceflight professionals as members and most welcome regular contributors.

We will never jeopardize that. Accordingly, our decisions regarding any changes are always very deliberate...and deliberation takes time.


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