2014 MU69 "Ultima Thule" flyby, For discussion of the encounter as it happens |
2014 MU69 "Ultima Thule" flyby, For discussion of the encounter as it happens |
Dec 31 2018, 10:44 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
If it is indeed a slow rotator AND it's binary/contact binary that's even more puzzling just from a conservation of momentum standpoint. Would have had to have been an extremely low-velocity capture indeed and one or both of them had to be barely rotating in the first place.
I suppose it's possible that there were one or more encounters with or impacts by other objects at some point in the distant past that hit all the various vectors just right to create this hypothetical binary, but it is very empty way out there, not like the inner system at all. Not really buying that scenario. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Dec 31 2018, 10:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1630 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
If it's a (non-contact) binary we'd be referring to a slow orbital revolution rather than rotation. My odds would favor a peanut shaped single object, like Halley or Borelli. This would mean a sizeable neck if it is a contact binary. At least so far there hasn't been any hint of a saddle point or minimum of pixel intensity between the two "lobes".
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Dec 31 2018, 10:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2083 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
Less than 1 lunar distance now; 7 hours to close the remaining gap, just like after launch (Newton's First Law )
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Dec 31 2018, 10:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 910 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Boston Member No.: 1102 |
At the press conference Dr. Spencer used a pen to demonstrate how if it rotates perpendicular to its long axis, and the rotation axis is facing you, you see the same surface all the time.
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Dec 31 2018, 11:02 PM
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Dec 31 2018, 11:14 PM
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In the absence of any other forces, could solar radiation have halted its rotation in the orientation that presents the least "pressure"? That would indeed be a wacky possibility, but the Yarkovsky effect sounds wacky at first, too. Hmm, evaporation from the sunrise side removes mass and momentum, transfers it to the evening-side via condensation.... "In Lower Pomerania is the Diamond Mountain... every hundred years a little bird comes and sharpens its beak on it" The Brothers Grimm "You must think that's a helluva long time!... Two Billion years...Personally? I think that's a helluva bird" Steven Moffat/Peter Capaldi |
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Dec 31 2018, 11:23 PM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
Less than 200K miles now.
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Jan 1 2019, 03:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Rome - Italy Member No.: 7482 |
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Jan 1 2019, 03:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 4-March 06 Member No.: 694 |
One hour and 53 minutes to closest approach now.
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Jan 1 2019, 03:46 AM
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I'm imagining it as something with a form like Methone, but probably not as smooth. Perhaps this vast and remote neighborhood could have been quiet enough through the ages to prevent any disruptions that would result in an irregular form.
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Jan 1 2019, 03:57 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1276 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 |
I expect a crater-less comet like object.
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Jan 1 2019, 04:34 AM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
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Jan 1 2019, 04:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2083 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
Less than an hour left....
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Jan 1 2019, 05:15 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: 27-June 04 From: Queensland Australia Member No.: 90 |
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Jan 1 2019, 05:20 AM
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