Dark Streaks At Victoria Crater, MGS: MOC image |
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Dark Streaks At Victoria Crater, MGS: MOC image |
 Dec 26 2005, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 25 2005, 07:32 PM) Are you sure? I seem to recall that it was about 2.17 miles when I took that walk.  3.5km - 2.17 miles, they're not that different  Doug |
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Dec 26 2005, 12:53 PM
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It does if you're not using metric boots.
 Think of that hike around the crater... that is about half of Oppy's odometry thus far. Then imagine going around the crater in a wheelchair.  --Bill -------------------- |
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Dec 26 2005, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 26 2005, 12:55 AM) Let me know if you want to see one of these in higher res. Yes please! Thanks ElkGroveDan!!! BTW, those images are somewhat old aren't they? -------------------- The scientist does not study nature because it is useful; he studies it because he delights in it, and he delights in it because it is beautiful.
Jules H. Poincare My "Astrophotos" gallery on flickr... |
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Dec 26 2005, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE (Toma B @ Dec 26 2005, 03:33 PM) BTW, those images are somewhat old aren't they? Yes, how could you tell? It was March 31, 1988. Photos were taken on Kodachrome 64.
-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Dec 26 2005, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 26 2005, 08:14 PM) Yes, how could you tell? It was March 31, 1988. Photos were taken on Kodachrome 64.   You are joking right?
-------------------- The scientist does not study nature because it is useful; he studies it because he delights in it, and he delights in it because it is beautiful.
Jules H. Poincare My "Astrophotos" gallery on flickr... |
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Dec 26 2005, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Dec 26 2005, 07:04 AM) I have heard that when in the center, if you lie on your back and look up it produces a visual illusion somewhat analogous to floating in space looking down at Earth. True? Sadly the interior of the crater is closed to the public. Tourists are restricted to the rim and visitors' center and outlook platforms. Though if we ever did put together a USF tour I would guess that we could arrange access for "scientific" purposes. There is a mine shaft at the bottom that has been locked up. Not sure if it is still accessible. (read the history of Barringer Crater at one of the many sites on the web). The entire site is privately owned, and they will prosecute you for theft for picking up rocks. It is possible to purchase iron fragments that have been located across the desert nearby and miles away. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Dec 26 2005, 05:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
QUOTE (Toma B @ Dec 26 2005, 05:20 PM) You are joking right? No I'm serious. I remember the date well and why I was travelling that week. I had a horrible hangover that morning. I met some truckers on my CB radio the day before and when they learned it was my 27th birthday and I had been dumped by a longtime girlfriend the week before, they inisisted that I stop in Winslow, Arizona with them and celebrate all night long to help me forget my troubles. I had fun, but boy was I sick the next day. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Dec 26 2005, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 26 2005, 12:27 PM) No I'm serious. I remember the date well and why I was travelling that week. I had a horrible hangover that morning. I met some truckers on my CB radio the day before and when they learned it was my 27th birthday and I had been dumped by a longtime girlfriend the week before, they inisisted that I stop in Winslow, Arizona with them and celebrate all night long to help me forget my troubles. I had fun, but boy was I sick the next day. The crater must have eroded a lot since 1988.  Actually, has anyone estimated how long the crater will remain a crater? And look at it this way: The ex-girlfriend is long gone, but the crater still remains. And which one are you sharing picture of with us now? See, all that really matters is the Cosmos. 
-------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Dec 26 2005, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 26 2005, 06:01 PM) And look at it this way: The ex-girlfriend is long gone, but the crater still remains. And which one are you sharing picture of with us now? I'm sure she has experienced far more "erosion" than the crater since then
-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Dec 26 2005, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (RGClark @ Oct 13 2005, 06:14 PM) Thanks for the link to the image. Notice that the two streaks on the right seem to widen as you move from the point of origin. I have argued that this characteristic of some *wind-blown* streaks on Mars is indicative of material being vented: Bob, I think a more plausible explanation for a widening streak is simply that the wind changes direction and therefore deposits material in slightly different directions, a sort of "weather vane"-effect. This BTW is my first posting here on Unmannedspaceflight.com, greetings all! |
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Dec 27 2005, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 26 2005, 11:14 AM) I'm sure she has experienced far more "erosion" than the crater since then ZZZINNNGGG!!!!!!!  
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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