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Jan 1 2006, 02:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Dec 31 2005, 07:35 PM) We haven't looked at that much area of El Dorado, so we can't say yea or nay on the minicraters. I assume you mean "anatolia" for the fractures, I doubt we'll be seeing _those_ here; wrong lithology. We did see some fractures the other side of Comanche, those likely from an impending slope failure. IMO. --Bill Bill: No, not Anatolia - the odd feature near Comanche was the Gusev crack... ...and slope failure sounds interesting. I previously suggested that there might be underground pools of ice-rich soil in various spots, making a series of 'water tables' which would influence the material above. Such material might provide enough 'lubrication' to mediate slippage, especially on a slope which gathers more sunlight... Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Jan 1 2006, 03:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
Ah, I see. _Those_ Gusev cracks. I was still thinking Meridiani.
I've seen that happen. This was a shopping center development, thinly-bedded rock with a 5 degree dip. They excavated the area of the lower parking lot (downdip), thereby removing the support of the upper parking lot. When it rained, it wetted the clay between the beds, providing lubrication. The upper parking lot started to slide down onto the lower parking lot. Solution was a row of drilled pilings to "pin" the strata down, and pave it with asphalt to keep the clay dry. As Spirit moves away from El Dorado towards HomePlate, we'll get a good look at possible mini-craters. --Bill -------------------- |
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Jan 1 2006, 04:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 27-April 05 Member No.: 365 |
Like the dog that didn't bark in the night, this total lack of a finer dust in El Dorado must be telling us something. I can't recall a single MB imprint that was so 'clean'. Steve really needs to update his little blog, perhaps letting us know what the Mini-TES has been making of this material.
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Jan 1 2006, 04:10 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I'm sure Steve will update us once we're under way again.
Doug |
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Jan 1 2006, 07:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
QUOTE (Burmese @ Jan 1 2006, 06:03 AM) Like the dog that didn't bark in the night, this total lack of a finer dust in El Dorado must be telling us something. I can't recall a single MB imprint that was so 'clean'. Steve really needs to update his little blog, perhaps letting us know what the Mini-TES has been making of this material. Presumably the fines have been carried away by the wind - up and over Husband Hill and on to the rest of Mars. The granules left behind are too heavy to make it up the hill. They have been worked and rolled around down here in Ultreya/Eldorado for n zillion years until they are "round and firm and fully packed" I wish there was a way we could try to break up the particles. What would happen if you just put the RAT into the sand and 'spun' it for a while at full speed? World's most expensive eggbeater. Even without diamond abrasive it might reveal something about the interior of the grains. Does anyone know the direction of the next drive? Into the 'Shadow Sea' or back onto 'dry land'? -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jan 1 2006, 09:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Last "drive-direction" panorama was looking SSE downslope.
IMO, Spirit will drive back to safer (?) terrain before going downhill. |
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Jan 1 2006, 09:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 31 2005, 10:40 PM) Really hard to get the colours matched up for some reason - just couldnt get it all quite right, but it's spectacular none the less Quite spectacular, Doug. Great work! I made it slightly brighter and introduced a shading in the horizon, with a simulated sun glow... hope you like it! -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Jan 1 2006, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (dilo @ Jan 1 2006, 11:52 PM) Quite spectacular, Doug. Great work! I made it slightly brighter and introduced a shading in the horizon, with a simulated sun glow... hope you like it! Guys, this is nothing but one of the most awsome unearthly spectacular views ever seen on another world ... for me at least among the top 5 of the entire MER mission imagery because of that alien, un-earth-like atmosphere ... one of those *really* great visions that show that Martian landscape is more than just dull rock-strewn plains but an entirely world of it's own exotic beauty |
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Jan 1 2006, 10:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
QUOTE (Nirgal @ Jan 1 2006, 12:12 PM) Guys, this is nothing but one of the most awsome unearthly spectacular views ever seen on another world ... for me at least among the top 5 of the entire MER mission imagery because of that alien, un-earth-like atmosphere ... one of those *really* great visions that show that Martian landscape is more than just dull rock-strewn plains but an entirely world of it's own exotic beauty A hundred years from now on New Years Day, Nirgal Doaks and his 'Martian' family will schedule an annual picnic on the nearest Black Sand Slope. Good things to eat, building sand castles, and free-style skiing across those slippery little 'ball bearings'. [insert smiley denoting 'sublime contentment'] -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jan 2 2006, 12:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...00P2430R2M1.JPG
JAWS CLVII "Get everyone out of the lake! Quick!" O.K. New Photos out! C'mon Autostitchers; quit nursing your hangovers and get to work! A new sand MI view from a different dune area - less clean and well-sorted. -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jan 2 2006, 12:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
The mission was originally scheduled to go here, to The Inner Basin first, but for a couple of valid reasons they decided to climb Husband Hill first. We saw a lot of great geology on that hillclimb, but _this_ place is wondrous.
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Jan 2 2006, 02:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
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Jan 2 2006, 06:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1870 Joined: 20-February 05 Member No.: 174 |
That funny looking circular feature in the sand that was spotted a couple days ago...
It's where a sandworm had started to surface but didn't.... As Elmer Fudd, in duck-hunting role says: We must be werrry werrry quiet! |
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Jan 2 2006, 06:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
Hahaha! Sharks and sandworms...this place is more dangerous than I had suspected...time to move on.
This is truly a scenic spot though, with some nifty science observations to boot. Doug's lovely panorama was a nice New Year's gift. The colors are really beautiful and quite natural looking. I felt as if I was there. Mike: Thanks for the daily MMB metadata updates. I have been checking for them regularly, and then spinning and zooming around through this developing panorama with joy. Doing that in 3D with the anaglyph panoramas has been delightful. Damn, I love your MidnightMarsBrowser! -------------------- ...Tom
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Jan 2 2006, 12:34 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I'm guessing...but...
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