The Festoon Objective |
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Jan 21 2006, 04:58 AM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jan 21 2006, 12:37 AM) Actually that's not new. MI's have been out of focus quite frequently. I have observed that they often "bracket" the focus due to the narrow depth of field in the MI camera, most likely to capture peripheral details where there is substantial variation in relief such as in RAT holes. Yes, and so far the ones returned are mostly "one offs". Perhaps they are just the quick previews of more to come from a "bracketed" set from each area of interest? Airbag |
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Jan 21 2006, 05:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
QUOTE (kungpostyle @ Jan 20 2006, 04:35 PM) here is a link to an excellent MI stich by hortonheardawho. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonheardawho/89032198/ Thanks for that. I was hoping to find something to give me a quick and close-up look at these beds. I don't know if the hosting site modified the dimensions of that image, or if something else is the cause, but something looked curious to me. I think it has been streched in the X dimension. The spherical concretions are elliptical, and other features are wider than they are tall in the pancam. A comparison pancam of the area is here: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/pre.../20060106a.html Attached, is an Autostiched version. Some of the input images are poorly focused, accounting for the fuzzy areas. QUOTE (Shaka @ Jan 20 2006, 09:27 PM) Hmmm. They're also from the adjacent rock slab, not the one originally spotlighted for festoon features. I don't think they're as clear in this slab. I was a bit surprised that they went for this area, too. Especially after they highlighted the 'other area' with a 2x enlargement. Go figure. I've been staring at this MI mosaic for a long time, and I still wonder what it is that they find so interesting here. Not to suggest that all rocks aren't interesting, but ... hey, give us a clue. -------------------- ...Tom
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Jan 21 2006, 06:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
Yes. MI sets have often contained many 'less than optimally focused' images. But I think they use slices from those to create 3D models. These are mostly "one-ofs." We should soon see if there will be more MIs of this area, or if they move the arm to another area, or if they move the rover to a new area.
-------------------- ...Tom
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Jan 21 2006, 06:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Jan 20 2006, 07:53 PM) I was a bit surprised that they went for this area, too. Especially after they highlighted the 'other area' with a 2x enlargement. Go figure. I've been staring at this MI mosaic for a long time, and I still wonder what it is that they find so interesting here. Not to suggest that all rocks aren't interesting, but ... hey, give us a clue. You've gotta love the nomenclature on the MER website, though. This is "Lower Overgaard" , so apparently the real target, above to the right, will be "Upper Overgaard". (If they'd had real class, it would have been "Under Overgaard" and "Over Overgaard") (What the hell is Overgaard , anyway? Sounds like a secret ingredient in a deoderant.) -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jan 21 2006, 11:40 AM
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>What the hell is Overgaard , anyway?
When in the dark, Google. In this context, think AZ and not Norse. --Bill -------------------- |
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Jan 22 2006, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Jan 21 2006, 01:40 AM) >What the hell is Overgaard , anyway? When in the dark, Google. In this context, think AZ and not Norse. --Bill O.K. Bill, I Googled....and I'm still in the dark. What does either the AZ or the Norse 'answers' have to do with this particular collection of flagstones? Did some JPL person's mom lose her festoons in Overgaard, Arizona? -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jan 23 2006, 01:43 AM
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Different Rover sites have "theme" name designation names. The previous site on the Erebus rim had Greek names-- Olympia, for example. The next/current site has a Arizone there-- Mogollon Rim, Payson, Williams, etc.
I may have given a geeky answer to a joking comment... --Bill -------------------- |
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Jan 23 2006, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Jan 22 2006, 03:43 PM) Different Rover sites have "theme" name designation names. The previous site on the Erebus rim had Greek names-- Olympia, for example. The next/current site has a Arizone there-- Mogollon Rim, Payson, Williams, etc. I may have given a geeky answer to a joking comment... --Bill Geeez, we better get out of here soon! Arizona doesn't have that many towns! (Why Arizona towns and not Hawaii towns? What do they have against Hawaii?) Memo to Steverino requesting flagstone named Kaneohe : -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jan 23 2006, 03:00 AM
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QUOTE (Shaka @ Jan 22 2006, 06:47 PM) Geeez, we better get out of here soon! Arizona doesn't have that many towns! (Why Arizona towns and not Hawaii towns? What do they have against Hawaii?) Memo to Steverino requesting flagstone named Kaneohe : Quite a few team members hail from that neck of the woods. -------------------- Lyford Rome
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Jan 23 2006, 04:16 AM
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QUOTE (lyford @ Jan 22 2006, 05:00 PM) Elementary, my dear Watson! I suppose there is still Tombstone, AZ. Trouble is all these slabs look like tombstones. I'm Sorry! I'M SORRY! When we get moving again I'll be scientific. -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jan 23 2006, 09:03 PM
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It's not just Arizona towns, but central Arizona towns that are near Mogollon Rim. (Arizona's second-grandest but much lesser known natural wonder.) In that context, Tombstone does not fit. Instead, be looking for Heber, Show Low, Pine, and Strawberry.
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Jan 26 2006, 12:28 AM
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Dear me! I hate to add yet one more note of frustration about our beloved Oppie's lethargy of late. The volume of these moans is already substantial, many of us having contributed more than once. And, of course , nothing much is to be gained by expending more bandwidth. Still I am concerned about what's happening out at Overgaard (Lower or Upper), and I would be grateful if anyone "in the know" could reassure me that we aren't facing more "problems".
We started seeing the first MI images of the slab adjacent (below and to the left) of the slab noted for pontoon... dammit, why can't I remember that word...FESTOON bedding on January 20, when 14 images arrived at Exploratorium. On the 22nd 35 more images appeared, and today (25th) 12 more have appeared. But they are ALL of the same slab and were ALL taken over a 90 minute period 5+ days ago! I can't see any evidence that any more MIs have been taken of anything since! What ARE we doing? Are we stuck again? Are we doing 4-day long mini-TES analyses? At this rate I am concerned that I might not see Mogollon Rim in my lifetime! (insert emoticon for banging head on keyboard) -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jan 26 2006, 02:40 AM
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Any ideas why Oppy is taking almost the same pic of the festoons over and over? Are these for some super rez attempt?
Pancam Pancam Pancam Pancam There's more but you get the idea - -------------------- Lyford Rome
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Jan 26 2006, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE (lyford @ Jan 26 2006, 02:40 AM) There's probably a corner of a book resting on the edge of someone's keyboard at JPL.
-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Jan 26 2006, 05:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jan 25 2006, 04:48 PM) Thanx, Dan, and please keep it up! A steady stream of humor might just prevent me from crying in public. Of course, if the recent pictures were of poltroo.!...FESTOONS, I would be jolly! Oppy has lots of filters in her quiver, and should have the chance to shoot them all. But are we really looking at......(wait for it.)...Festoon Bedding on this particular slab? I'm not at all sure! I don't see the T's Emily informed us about. Can you ,Emily? Ahhh me. The tribulations of an addict. From the last gasp of MER...to the first touchdown of MSL...eternity... Enroll me in the first chapter of Marsaholics Anonymous. . -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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