The layers look fairly horizontal to me, that is allowing for some disturbance and disruption

>I hate to come in as a contrarian, especially considering how difficult it seems to remotely interpret these busted-up rocks

No kidding!

I'm still looking at this in awe, going "hmmmm".

More later; I've gotten behind in viewing, I installed a new firewall that did a good job protecting me from Internet hazards by keeping me OFF.

Tom, what is your source image used in your animation? I'm thinking dilo's "pano 742 sharp". In addition to your dipping beds, look also at the several vertical fractures or joints. This area does look like a depression or sinkhole; think Anatolia???

This is looking more and more like Burns Cliff II. Attached is a section at Endurance for a refresher.

More later...

--Bill

Bill: My image is a crop of an Autostitched panorama from the sol 742 navcams that I made. It looks as if some new imagery is in. I need to download it to see if we have any better views.

Bill:

'Anatolia' was indeed the word I was toying with in my head when I saw the images - I also wonder how many unseen rover-traps we've skirted over!

Bob Shaw

Tom, then that is a good job of auto-stitching. I've developed somewhat of a lazy streak with all the fine imagery around here. If I see something I want to illustrate or annotate in an image I see here I tend to modify that image, keeping the same filename root and give credit. Technically that is "infringement" but that is fair use in a discussion and I never take an image to another site.

Bob, yep, when I see paving stones with sand funnelling around their edges, I've wondered where the sand goes. We don't have solid evidence that this is a karst-like situation, but that hasn't been ruled out.

This reminds me of a predicament I got myself into at work many years ago: I foolishly walked out onto a burning coal stockpile and 40' onto the pile a nearby square-meter section of the surface collapsed into a Burning Pit Of Hell. I carefully retraced my steps back out.... The folly of youth.


Attached find two stretched color images taken last year from the North Erebus rim and from Olympia. The first image shows the current outcrop on the right and the other "Payson" area on the left separated by that dark sand dune; the second image shows the outcrop we are currently looking at. This should give us an idea of colors until we get something current at this site.

There is going to be some excellent structure and petrology here.

--Bill

Ja sehr ist der geehrte Herr, steuernd auf Mars immer faszinierend!
Keep watching on Mars. Have a fun time with the good picture and coments sharing of USMF's members!

Erebus's case is an unique . There is still not good hypothesis to prove about how it was formed. The Erebus was created when there was water, the reason is that the rims are low and rounded and not so deep since the water acts an moderator force to lease the impact force. The other hypothesis is that the Erebus is very much older than Endurance crater and it is very eroded by water and winds which have played the rol of higher rounded and degrated of Erebus' rim.)

Let us see about what is the best hypothesis about this but I feel that it won't be the final true since we are not a witness of this event. Hope, we will have a machine time to confirm this, and it is in utopia.

Rodolfo

I said it firts, I said it first (I like so much to be right visualy and ...wrong technicaly...)

Welcome to Burns Cliff 2 surely? It looks JUST like the top metre of Burns Cliff ( hardly unexpected )

Doug

Doug:

But here, it's up close and personal!

After all the complaints about sitting around for so long on one spot, it irks me to have to say that I hope we *don't* leave here in the near future!

Bob Shaw

Parallax calculator output:
distance from features at the center of image: 8.36m (+/- 3cm)
height of the escarpment: about 50cm (scale is 2.35mm/pixel)

I had just visited at qt.exploratorium.edu and it has stopped again the captation of pictures from Opportunity. Its last image update was February 24. Its does not happens uniquely to Opportunity but also to Spirit. So, now, the only updated source from MER is only of the Mars Rovers JPL web site. Isn't it?

Rodolfo

I don't remember pieces of Burn Cliff falling around like what we can see here. In this aspect (at least?) it looks like HP. It's sure a smaller fiture and much more steeper.
What is even more puzzling is the fine strata that we can see on the top...this also look like much more like HP than Burn Cliffs to me. Fist time we see this in Meridianii ? I think yes.

I was referring to features at the centrer of last PanCam views..



While waiting for true color sequences, I made this pseudo color view... it is a kind of divertissment, I cannot reach the level of great Nirgal works but I made many other improvements/changes over the original R1 version (do you guess which ones?)...

Marco:

Move over HP - I got a new desktop!

Great image!

Bob Shaw

Woha! That is one great colorized view! I'm going to wait, though: my favorite desktop wallpaper is still Spirit at the Peak.

What puzzles me is how this bluff is eroding. It lays on the downwind side of the scarp: prevailing wind is from the NW.

--Bill