Opportunity Leaves Olympia, Goodbye Purgatory 2 |
Opportunity Leaves Olympia, Goodbye Purgatory 2 |
Mar 1 2006, 04:55 PM
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I think the evaporite rocks and cemented aeolian sandstones simply crumble and blow away after millions of years of weathering, which explains the lack of ejecta blocks on all but the freshest craters. Payson is not the pristine rim of a crater, it's the remnant of an old crater after a billion years or more of weathering, scarp retreat etc. The central bowl of Erebus might be closer to the original crater size. Phil Phil : Payson may not be the rim but the scarp we see has not retreated or we would observe a linear fracture on the surface in the foreground seperating the downdropped planar unit from the now higher bedded unit. The fact that one unit butts against the other along the scarp suggests recent movement. neb |
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Mar 1 2006, 07:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
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Mar 1 2006, 08:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
Last year we had a discussion on The Erebus Complex which outlined the impact, erosional and depositional history of this region. I agree with that we are looking at the erosional remnants of a crater rim and not the rim. From the annotated image in the above link, we have two or three overlapping craters in this area with overlapping effects.
My thought on Payson area is that it is an eroded version of the "scallops" or landslide scarps that we see in Victoria. I hate to sound alarmist and suggest something like subsidence, but, as Elmer Fudd would say, "there is someting vewy, vewy scroowey" here. It might be something as simple the topography and orientation of this scarp concentrating the wind to efficiently remove sand from this spot; after all, there is an odd dune of dark sand between this spot and the larger scarp down the road. --Bill -------------------- |
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Mar 1 2006, 09:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
Sol 745 drive direction: Looking forward to new images today, maybe... meanwhile a coulorized stitch of 3 pancam R2 images; very interesting formations in the left (look at this almost orthogonal cutted rock with festoons... ) -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Mar 1 2006, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
This is contest NavCam (now Sol745 panorama download is complete), showing also the path from Olympia:
(this image recall me something else, do you agre? ) -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Mar 1 2006, 09:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Looking forward to new images today, maybe... The tracking web tells the sol 747 drive was executed (new site id=645G) but I still can't find any pic at the exploratorium. (this image recall me something else, do you agre? ) At the other side of mars, right? |
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Mar 1 2006, 10:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
-------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Mar 1 2006, 10:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
QUOTE This is contest NavCam (now Sol745 panorama download is complete), showing also the path from Olympia: What did you use to stitch these NavCam images with? I like the arc-like geometry. --Bill -------------------- |
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Mar 1 2006, 10:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
What did you use to stitch these NavCam images with? I like the arc-like geometry. --Bill Very simple, Bill: I increased Psi angle in autostitch, up to 30deg... Anyway, Sol747 imagery is coming and it seems there weren't stop on the outcrop: Oppy is directly going to South! http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...5NP1824L0M1.JPG -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Mar 1 2006, 11:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Yup.
Call that a "distraction manouver": Shoot a "drive-direction" pancam mosaic looking north and then go directly south! |
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Mar 1 2006, 11:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
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Mar 1 2006, 11:28 PM
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meanwhile a coulorized stitch of 3 pancam R2 images; very interesting formations in the left (look at this almost orthogonal cutted rock with festoons... ) Wow, that is the first rock I've seen that really looks like festoons to me. That is worth taking some time on. Scott |
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Mar 2 2006, 03:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2998 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
QUOTE I increased Psi angle in autostitch, up to 30deg... That's what I figured, I'll play with that some. Ha! Southward and eastward, along the trend of the scarp. Wonderful! We are going to have some fine imagery tomorrow!! In Dilo's Sol 745 Navcam pan, I found something interesting: apparent fresh displacement in some of the bedrock. Shown in a crop of the central part of the image, the displacement fractures are aligned between arrows, like this --> <--. BTW, I found out today that the URL //nasa.exploratorium.edu/ updates more quickly than the (older) URL //qt.exploratorium.edu/ (presented in part; note "nasa" vs "qt"). --Bill -------------------- |
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Mar 2 2006, 04:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 147 Joined: 3-July 04 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 91 |
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Mar 2 2006, 05:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1281 Joined: 18-December 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 124 |
They sure faked us out on that one! (Drive direction was closer to east, though.) Here's a couple views.. Is it an artifact of the images or are there vertical "cat scratches" running in those mosaics? -------------------- Lyford Rome
"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test |
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