Wheel Trouble, ...down to 5 good wheels? |
Wheel Trouble, ...down to 5 good wheels? |
Mar 20 2006, 03:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
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Mar 20 2006, 06:44 PM
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According to the MER tracking pages imsages for sol 785 are down, but not on the exp' website, I thought there might be probalem with the site again, but images for Oppy are online... so maybe just a glitch on the Spirit side. Weird.
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Mar 21 2006, 02:56 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10153 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
This looks EXACTLY the same as Arad, Paso Robles and other less studied places where bright soil has been uncovered. It's salt-rich, not ice-rich.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Mar 21 2006, 08:05 PM
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Interesting shots of the drag marks.......... still no driving though
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...67P2530L7M1.JPG |
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Mar 21 2006, 08:21 PM
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Mar 21 2006, 09:33 PM
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Mar 21 2006, 10:01 PM
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Interesting shots of the drag marks.......... still no driving though http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...67P2530L7M1.JPG Well, some movement took place; at least looking to the "site/drive" id. which has changed from AQ75 (on sol 784) to the current id. AQ81. But I can't find any "post-drive" navcam mosaic to make a driving distance estimation. |
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Mar 21 2006, 10:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
Well, some movement took place; at least looking to the "site/drive" id. which has changed from AQ75 (on sol 784) to the current id. AQ81. But I can't find any "post-drive" navcam mosaic to make a driving distance estimation. The move to AQ81 was basically nothing. But wait! Now we're up to AQAE: 2F196230651EFFAQAEP1213R0M1.JPG Here's the view directly South on Sol 787, angled down 35 degrees to catch the dramatic wheel tracks: |
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Mar 21 2006, 10:59 PM
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The move to AQ81 was basically nothing. But wait! Now we're up to AQAE: Here's the view directly South on Sol 787, angled down 35 degrees to catch the dramatic wheel tracks: Dramatic is right! Is it a fair conclusion that the 'popcorn' is actually granules of iron sulfate salts? This looks like a really major bed of the stuff. -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Mar 21 2006, 11:02 PM
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Mar 21 2006, 11:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 147 Joined: 30-June 05 From: Bristol, UK Member No.: 423 |
The move to AQ81 was basically nothing. But wait! Now we're up to AQAE: 2F196230651EFFAQAEP1213R0M1.JPG Here's the view directly South on Sol 787, angled down 35 degrees to catch the dramatic wheel tracks: Looks like the impediment of dragging the stuck wheel is actually bearing scientific fruit. We are trenching wherever we go and serendipitously stumbling upon interesting soils. Didn't someone say they wished the Mers had ploughs - now one of them does! Nick |
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Mar 21 2006, 11:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
Looks like the bad news of dragging a wheel is bearing benifits. We are trenching wherever we go and serendipitously stumbling upon interesting soils. Didn't someone say they wished the Mers had ploughs - now one of them does! Nick Yeah, I wish it were retractable though. It's great fun in the sand, but I'm getting worried about when we get into the rocks. A worst-case scenario might be: two steps forward - one step back - turn - two steps forward - one step back - turn.... Hustle, guys! We have got to get to the Safe Zone! Stick to the sand until we get there. -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Mar 22 2006, 12:07 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Very impressive turn, how did displaced so much white powder?! That's really remarkable (again!)...still amazes me that this stuff exists in such discrete deposits so near the surface. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if potassium, sulphur, etc. salts decompose when exposed to typical Martian UV levels? Be interesting to know if this might be one big reason we don't see direct surface deposits. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Mar 22 2006, 03:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1636 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Lima, Peru Member No.: 385 |
Due to the Spirit dragging surface, I hope to find some very interesting news soon from the wheel dragging mark. I won't be hoping to see any plant ancient roots but something novel thing hidden by the dust deposition. So, come any birds to catch any alive worms!
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Mar 22 2006, 05:10 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 11-May 05 From: Colorado USA Member No.: 386 |
Dramatic is right! Is it a fair conclusion that the 'popcorn' is actually granules of iron sulfate salts? This looks like a really major bed of the stuff. This could be percolation of salt-heavy groundwater, with evaporation at the surface leaving the salts, and then overcover of dust/sand. Does anyone really understand the effects of evaporation through soils (from deep within the soil) in a low-pressure environment over millions of years? I wonder if the white salt beds and the odd formations (popcorn, like cave-popcorn, and blueberries, etc.) could be explained simply due to slow molecular water movement from within the the regolith and rock out to the atmosphere. The presence of underground water, even when frozen, with a thin atmosphere on the outside, sets up a strong molecule-by-molecule pumping gradient. It could fizz out into all kinds of formations similar to what are found in caves on earth. Scott |
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