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| Guest_DonPMitchell_* |
 Jun 8 2006, 12:44 AM
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I hear the ESA has a scientific probe in orbit around Venus. Anyone else heard that? I wonder what it's doing? Do you think it might send back pictures? Maybe we will get to see them!
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Jun 8 2006, 01:52 AM
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Yes, I hear they plan daily releases of pics, a la MER. (Venusian days.)
-------------------- Lyford Rome
"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test |
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Jun 8 2006, 02:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1636 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Lima, Peru Member No.: 385 |
Maybe, the most-well informed is of Emily with her blog at http://www.planetary.org/explore/topics/venus_express/
However, the news is still cold dated May 9, 2006 as the most recent ones. I am afraid that the time will be cronometred as venusian day as Lyford is smelling!  Rodolfo |
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Jun 8 2006, 03:21 AM
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QUOTE (lyford @ Jun 7 2006, 06:52 PM)  Yes, I hear they plan daily releases of pics, a la MER. (Venusian days.) Sounds like the French pushed the choice of Debussy. 
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Jun 8 2006, 11:26 AM
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'Until beginning of June, Venus Express will continue its ‘orbit commissioning phase’, started on 22 April this year. "The spacecraft instruments are now being switched on one by one for detailed checking, which we will continue until mid May. Then we will operate them all together or in groups" said Don McCoy, Venus Express Project Manager. "This allows simultaneous observations of phenomena to be tested, to be ready when Venus Express’ nominal science phase begins on 4 June 2006," he concluded.'
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM33O8ATME_index_0.html What did you want ESA to do before? Draws?... Let's be patient and hope for some news on the following days...They'll appear... I hope... 
-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Jun 8 2006, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (ustrax @ Jun 8 2006, 01:26 PM) Let's be patient and hope for some news on the following days...They'll appear... I hope... I was hoping for some images from SMART-1. Now there are somewhere around 20 total images... ESA PR stinks...  
-------------------- The scientist does not study nature because it is useful; he studies it because he delights in it, and he delights in it because it is beautiful.
Jules H. Poincare My "Astrophotos" gallery on flickr... |
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Jun 8 2006, 11:55 AM
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B)--> QUOTE(Toma B @ Jun 8 2006, 12:49 PM) I was hoping for some images from SMART-1. Now there are somewhere around 20 total images... ESA PR stinks... [/quote] We're the MER-spoiled children... 
-------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Jun 8 2006, 12:54 PM
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B)--> QUOTE(Toma B @ Jun 8 2006, 07:49 AM) I was hoping for some images from SMART-1. Now there are somewhere around 20 total images... ESA PR stinks... [/quote] Instead of complaining to the choir, as it were, have you written to ESA officials - especially those in charge of publicity - with your issues, concerns, and ideas? -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Jun 8 2006, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jun 8 2006, 02:54 PM) ...have you written to ESA officials - especially those in charge of publicity - with your issues, concerns, and ideas? Yes I have but I got no reply...
-------------------- The scientist does not study nature because it is useful; he studies it because he delights in it, and he delights in it because it is beautiful.
Jules H. Poincare My "Astrophotos" gallery on flickr... |
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Jun 8 2006, 02:13 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
There is a more recent update from the 6th of June:
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/in...fobjectid=39343 And there are, since April, images available: http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/in...0913&fareaid=63 OK, it is not a flood of information but there is some... EDITED: I've contacted the Project Manager Don McCoy but he will be out untill the 12th (maybe he will be at the world cup...who knows?...  )Let's see if there is an answer by then... -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Jun 8 2006, 03:04 PM
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Yes, June marks the "Routine Science Operations" becoming, well, routine. (I, despite the highest respect I have for our Quebecois UMSF members, am grateful there are no Poutine Science Operations scheduled.)
I know I can rely on the grace and good humor of this board to get me through the longs dry spells between "daily" releases of information. Though, as Ustrax pointed out, the VE website does appear to have weekly updates, which is a great thing if they can keep it going. And yes as far as images go like MRO they are few until the operational orbit begins which is now I understand. We should see more soon. -------------------- Lyford Rome
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Jun 8 2006, 04:04 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
QUOTE (lyford @ Jun 8 2006, 04:04 PM) Though, as Ustrax pointed out, the VE website does appear to have weekly updates, which is a great thing if they can keep it going. And yes as far as images go like MRO they are few until the operational orbit begins which is now I understand. We should see more soon. About the updates let's wait untill the 13th to confirm their periodicity... Don't expect to see much more before this: 'The next milestone for the mission is the preparation of the Mission Commissioning Results Review to be held end of June.' -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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| Guest_DonPMitchell_* |
Jun 8 2006, 06:09 PM
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Looking at past missions, there is clearly a problem. People in the EU should apply some healthy critcism of this policy of closed data and image access. It is not appropriate to such an expensive publically-funded program.
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Jun 9 2006, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jun 8 2006, 07:09 PM) Looking at past missions, there is clearly a problem. People in the EU should apply some healthy critcism of this policy of closed data and image access. It is not appropriate to such an expensive publically-funded program. as an EU citizen my only response to this is - I'm absolutely with you bud. Pressure is being applied little by little but we really need our own TPS here. Well a subset of the TPS that kicked some butt here would also be an option. |
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| Guest_AlexBlackwell_* |
Jun 9 2006, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE (helvick @ Jun 9 2006, 12:02 AM) Pressure is being applied little by little but we really need our own TPS here. Frankly, an "ESA Watch" (no doubt started by a former, disgruntled ESA employee who got laid off) or European versions of our own lovable Cydonuts would probably be more effective. You know, something along the lines of "C'mon, David [Southwood], why is ESA ignoring European taxpayers?" or "They're not showing the VEx data because they're hiding evidence of ancient civilizations on Venus!!!" 
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