Thank you very much

BrianL, the depth of the crater is about 60m in my last simulation with the rim about 10m over the plain level.
But, I think that the crater is deeper than 60m (about 90~100m?).

If you want, I can give you the Terragen files to make your own renderings.

Terragen World file and .ter elevation map

In this moment, I'm waiting for the version 2 of Terragen who will be more realistic.

Website : http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/

tremendously beautiful artwork

It evokes the closing sceen from IMAX Roving Mars

and perhaps we'll have to change our thinking of Endurance to a "dwarf crater" compared to Victoria

ken

PS : and what is your projected angle for the entrance ramp?

Is this value backed up by some analysis? What we're seeing of the rim at the moment is that it is no more than a metre or so higher than the plain and I haven't seen anything that clearly shows that the crater is 90-100m deep. My own gut feeling is that it is in the 20-30m range at most.

Really great work, Ant! (look at this post, are you menacing Oppy!?).
Helvick, if your feeling is correct, I fear Victoria view will be deludent... Someone already highlighted that Victoria interior will resemble more to Grand Canyon than Endurance (and Terragen simulation partially confirm this) but if we have to further reduce topography by 4, we risk to see only an "enlarged Erebus")...

that definately looks like one impressive crater. hopefully we will get such a view in a few weeks time.

I must agree (and I want! )... and the confirm could arrive within few days, not weeks!

The same to me. VC isn't deep but around 25-35 meters and its rim goes up to less than 3 meters at the beacons but the rest, are around 1 meter. Let confirm it whenever Oppy arrives there very soon! (Cross fingers so that it will happen)

Rodolfo

The only quantitative information on Victoria's depth that I am aware of comes from the "hell of a view" profile that we saw. It suggests that at least one MOLA control point (-1408 m) fell inside the crater, though we don't know if that point was near the center or somewhere on the inside slopes. It seems unlikely that any other control points defined the height of the rim. However, if we can assume that the elevation at "hell of a view" (-1385 m) is roughly the same as the rim of Victoria, we can perhaps estimate a minimum depth of about 23 meters. Of course, it's easy to see many potential problems with these assumptions, so one can't have a lot of confidence in the results.

Hello,

Basing from the MOLA elevation, I've made this picture of Victoria with a depth around 20 meters.

It's a bit flat, isnt'it?




So, if, you see the MGS image, you could remark on the South side of the crater the shadows cast by the cliffs. After, the dune field withe 20m deep should be more large, and we mustn't have radial drawing of the sand between the dune field and the rocky rim.
Finally, I deduce the te depth of the crater will be more important than the MOLA data.

I am afraid that the view to Victoria crater won't be so an astonishing landscape due to its flatness comparing to its diameter distance. Anyway, it would be three times, not sure, deeper than Endurance crater.

Rodolfo

It may seem a bit flat but I think it is more likely to be accurate than your other images. In any case they are all superb simulations - good work.

[quote name='Ant103' date='Aug 28 2006, 08:14 PM' post='65939']
Hello,

Basing from the MOLA elevation, I've made this picture of Victoria with a depth around 20 meters.

It's a bit flat, isnt'it?




very good work Ant, especially nice colors and sky !
tha's just how I imagine Victoria will look like

although not as impressive as Endurance in terms of steepness, the view will nevertheless be breathtaking
in terms of "vastness" and scale proprtions of near- and far-ground clifss with the contrast to the
giant dune-field !

When discussing MOLA data, can we speak of interpolated values and measured values? However it turns out to be, it will undoubtedly be a wonderful view...

Not if it's 20m deep, it won't be! Seriously, I'll be pretty gutted if VC turns out to be merely a gently curving row of low mounds stretching off into the far distance, surrounding a shallow sandpit. I might ask for my money back...

Ah, but if it is gently sloping that means a better chance of getting in to have a look at some of those nice outcrops. Easy access to slopes also means a better chance of finding a nice breezy spot for a light cleaning. Gentle slopes also means easier exiting, should Opportunity still be working after a lengthy science campaign. Then of course is the question of where to go next.