The scale of Victoria..., Images showing how big its features really are... |
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The scale of Victoria..., Images showing how big its features really are... |
 Oct 1 2006, 03:23 PM
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 The Poet Dude  Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60  |
Following Jabe's excellent suggestion, I invite everyone to post images showing the scale of objects and features around and within Victoria Crater in this topic...
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Oct 1 2006, 03:56 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 30-March 06 Member No.: 730 |
someone go place the rover on the far side!
... could we still see it? 
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Oct 1 2006, 04:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 163 Joined: 16-March 05 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 201 |
QUOTE (babboxy @ Oct 1 2006, 03:56 PM)  someone go place the rover on the far side! ... could we still see it? check here in another thread. so I guess the answer is yes..since rover is taller than 22cm cheers jb |
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Oct 1 2006, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE (Stu @ Oct 1 2006, 10:23 AM) Following Jabe's excellent suggestion, I invite everyone to post images showing the scale of objects and features around and within Victoria Crater in this topic...
Well, that's your House Rock, right there...  -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Oct 1 2006, 09:47 PM
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 Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 25-December 05 From: Stevens Point, Wisconsin, USA Member No.: 619 |
What I’d like to see is an animation showing the acceleration due to gravity on Mars – using the cliffs of Victoria Crater. I wonder whether fredk’s “Mystery Man” is up to the challenge? (Not to worry, I’m sure MM is perfectly elastic). Since d = about 5t^2 on Mars it would take MM six seconds to fall the 70 meters to the bottom... Or he could make the trip in a series of shorter leaping bounds using Cabo Verde as a “jumping off” point.
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Oct 1 2006, 11:30 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 25-December 05 From: Stevens Point, Wisconsin, USA Member No.: 619 |
Correction, I meant distance (in meters) = 2 x time (in seconds) squared on Mars...
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Oct 2 2006, 03:16 AM
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Some great work back in the other thread as well
Can't wait to see what our photoshop geniuses can do with this one, it's even the right color I think!
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"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test |
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Oct 2 2006, 04:52 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
QUOTE (lyford @ Oct 1 2006, 05:16 PM) Can't wait to see what our photoshop geniuses can do with "Sic 'em, Oppy! This is your crater!" 
-------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Oct 2 2006, 10:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1870 Joined: 20-February 05 Member No.: 174 |
A point I've been making is that the 800 meter straight line distance to the far rim of the crater from the rover's current location is greater than the TOTAL MISSION DRIVING GOAL of 600 meters.
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Oct 2 2006, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (rogelio @ Oct 1 2006, 10:47 PM) What I’d like to see is an animation showing the acceleration due to gravity on Mars... Not quite the full 70 metres, but here's the first seven. (Click on the coloured balls...red is Mars, blue is Earth.) Andy |
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Oct 2 2006, 11:56 AM
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Doug wrote in another thread...here...about how involved we've all become in this voyage and said to the MER teams "Thankyou for giving us the images, taking us on this journey, sharing this adventure."
Well Doug, all I want to say to you is 'thankyou for giving us a place for our images, for taking us on this journey, and allowing us to share this adventure'. Back in the days when we were at the BBQ with Spirit you sent me several photos of yourself located near a lake(?) somewhere. The one I used for the BBQ photo was of you and Helen standing together, but another you sent was of yourself with back to camera looking over the water. It looked as if you were taking a photograph or perhaps looking through binoculars. This was right around the time that VC was being announced as a goal for Opportunity and I thought it would be great to use that photo to have you standing on the rim and looking at the vista below. Sort of 'on topic' here's my thanks to you for allowing all of us on UMSF to 'share this adventure'. Astro0
PS: Not sure if Doug's to scale here, but that's not really the point. |
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Oct 2 2006, 12:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 877 Joined: 7-March 05 From: Switzerland Member No.: 186 |
QUOTE (AndyG @ Oct 2 2006, 12:39 PM) Not quite the full 70 metres, but here's the first seven. (Click on the coloured balls...red is Mars, blue is Earth.) Nice Animation! Looks like it would be even possible to jump down from that Cabo - If it is sandy enough there at the ground. -------------------- |
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Oct 2 2006, 12:50 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 25-December 05 From: Stevens Point, Wisconsin, USA Member No.: 619 |
Tman quote: Nice Animation! Looks like it would be even possible to jump down from that Cabo - If it is sandy enough there at the ground.
...Yes, your velocity after a 7 m drop on Mars would be equivalent to that of a 2.7 m jump on Earth... And if the ground was sandy, it would be sort of like jumping off the roof into a snow drift... |
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Oct 2 2006, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (rogelio @ Oct 2 2006, 01:50 PM) If the ground was sandy, it would be sort of like jumping off the roof into a snow drift... ...seven metres on Mars is just inside the zone I called "a bit dangerous" on this tool. That said, an enterprising astronaut (in a flexible suit) could bound up it in two big standing jumps.  Andy |
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Oct 2 2006, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (Astro0 @ Oct 2 2006, 01:56 PM) This was right around the time that VC was being announced as a goal for Opportunity and I thought it would be great to use that photo to have you standing on the rim and looking at the vista below.
Asto, that looks so real! Unbelievable. Very different to pictures as compared to the one with Astronauts or Oppy. This give a different sense of what been on Mars look like. I understand you did that for Doug, but thanks Astro, many thanks. -------------------- |
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